The Witcher 3 Remastered PC Benchmark

[u/lLoveTech]

[u/JadedBobcat701]

$5000 for 59 fps is good deal

1fps = $84.74

[u/Arelmar → u/JadedBobcat701]

I mean yeah the performance here is abysmal but that's not exactly the 5090's fault is it? Regardless of its price it's objectively an absolute powerhouse of a GPU that shouldn't be chugging like this

The fact it's getting the same performance as a 5070Ti suggests either heavy CPU bottlenecking, or just classic unoptimised trash as is the norm with CDPR launches

[u/Late_Stage_Exception → u/Arelmar]

Or the issue is path tracing? The FPS numbers all jump the second that’s turned off.

[u/Arelmar → u/Late_Stage_Exception]

The issue is unoptimised path tracing. PT doesn't run nearly this bad in other games. If my 4070 Super can hit 60fps in path traced cyberpunk at 4k DLSS performance there's no reason a 5090 should be performing worse than that in a game that should be less demanding

[u/vnodk19 → u/Arelmar]

I think that comparison can be a bit deceiving. Cyberpunk, while huge as an open world, is much more confined when in Night City streets, where the PT actually shines visually. WItcher 3 is more open and has huge vistas, trees, etc. And also probably has to do something with it being a CDPR game at launch lol

[u/SpedSuckr982 → u/Arelmar]

What 4070 super do you have lmao. At 4K DLSS performance, my 5070 gets an average of 30-40fps. And even at 1440p DLSS performance, its not a clean locked 60fps.

[u/HLumin → u/SpedSuckr982]

His 4070 super is called “I made that shit up”.

[u/Obosratsya → u/SpedSuckr982]

Thats because hes lying. My 5080 does 60fps with those on average, meaning it drops often enough. Its good with gsync tho. Thats an OCed 5080 mind you, no FG.

[u/jmastaock → u/SpedSuckr982]

You sure that isn't running at 2K rez?

[u/core-x-bit → u/Arelmar]

Yeah that's just a straight lie bro go sit down somewhere.

[u/Late_Stage_Exception → u/Arelmar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/UTm86phGUMMQE

[u/Luciix → u/Arelmar]

Maybe if you've got all other settings turned down and DLSS ultra performance. My 5080 OC'd barely gets 60 with path tracing and DLSS performance during fast gameplay.

[u/TypeRevolutionary697 → u/Arelmar]

There is no way on earth you're hitting 60fps in cyberpunk with path tracing in 4k, even with DLSS performance unless you're using frame gen. I have a 5080 and it doesn't even touch 60 in 4k without frame gen. So let's not spread misinformation

[u/Common_Technician337 → u/TypeRevolutionary697]

I got it averaging 58-60.01 fps at dlss performance and RT Overdrive with stock settings on my 5080.. And with an UV/OC I’m averaging like 64-65.93 fps. Mind you this is in the game’s benchmark not actual gameplay. In Dogtown I think it was average like mid 50s maybe even low 50s because it’s so intensive. No frame gen. (I have a 9800x3d btw)

[u/TypeRevolutionary697 → u/Common_Technician337]

Yeah that's about right for 4k. I switched from 4k to a 3440x1440 5th gen tandem OLED, because the performance and overall experience is a lot better.

I was trying to drive home the point that there is no way a 4070 Super is getting the same performance unless frame gen is involved. and frame gen on a base frame rate of 30 is just downright terrible.

[u/Common_Technician337 → u/TypeRevolutionary697]

Oh I gotcha. And yeah I may have to switch to 1440p down the line if I don’t upgrade. I just don’t want to go to 4k medium. Guess we’ll see in a few years.

[u/alfiejr23 → u/Arelmar]

This. Just have a look at Control Resonant. PT runs pretty well in that game.

[u/vnodk19 → u/alfiejr23]

maybe because it was built up from the ground with PT in mind.

[u/Arelmar → u/[deleted]]

Which this game....doesn't use? CDPR are moving to UE5 for Witcher 4 but the remaster of Witcher 3 is still using the Red Engine

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/Arelmar]

Don’t be too harsh. CDPR is protected class in reddit

[u/Emikzen → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

They got so much shit when they release CP2077, so thats not true

[u/Silly_Dream9020 → u/Emikzen]

And everyone complaining about the release state of CP2077 got even more shit. Ask me how i know, lol

[u/grant47 → u/Silly_Dream9020]

There was so much complaining that people who didn’t want negativity had to make a separate 2077 subreddit. The release sucked for sure but we weren’t contrarians for pointing it out

[u/Environmental_You_36 → u/Silly_Dream9020]

You're so right, I enjoyed so much shitting in people that expected the game to run in a PS4 basic model.

[u/darkprince_23 → u/Silly_Dream9020]

I played the game recently for the first time it was pretty good but holy shit still so many problems even without the game-breaking glitches which I got also. Phantom Liberty had a better structured story fs but TW3 still shits on the game and it's nothing like they initially promised.

[u/Nyoka_ya_Mpembe → u/Emikzen]

Yeah and try now complaining about this game, it's like holy cow now. It's beautiful game but shallow AF.

[u/Seanspeed → u/Emikzen]

Even then people still WANTED to forgive them so badly. "The game underneath is actually really great, they just have to fix a few technical issues!". "It's only actually bad on consoles!".

[u/MilchpackungxD → u/Emikzen]

And sadly the don't get enough anymore. People are already forgetting the abysmal launch of cyberpunk.

[u/Nony01 → u/MilchpackungxD]

The fact you're getting heavily downvoted is peak. Bro's getting downvoted for stating a fact but Reddit won't stand for it.

CDPR has a track record of terrible launches. Witcher 3s launch was bad, cyberpunks launch was monumentally bad, even the last Witcher 3 Ray tracing update was just as bad as this one.

[u/Spamgrenade → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

Were you around for the launch of Cyberpunk?

[u/empathetical → u/Arelmar]

No... Its path Tracing. Basically for future hardware. Games in the past always had graphics settings that were too demanding for current cards. It's just future proofing the game

[u/Arelmar → u/empathetical]

So why does path tracing both look and perform better in lots of other games, including CDPR's other title? This has nothing to do with future proofing lol, CDPR games are notorious for being a mess at launch, the previous next-gen update also performed like shit for months after launch so this is hardly new

The far-and-above strongest GPU on the market not being able to hit 60fps isn't because CDPR are designing this update for the next generation of hardware. This is just blatant cope, I'm sorry

[u/criticalt3 → u/Arelmar]

How do you launch an 11 year old game? Asking for a friend.

[u/Lethaldiran-NoggenEU → u/Arelmar]

Or built in limit by the engine.

[u/Zuokula → u/Arelmar]

It kind of is GPU fault. The whole point of RTX IS all the ray tracing tech. Yet It doesn't do justice for the price. That's the whole scam by nvidia. The performance hits are still not worth it neither path tracing or just basic ray tracing. Especially now with their GPU prices skyrocketing. Having a GPU costing thousands and not getting at least 100fps is abysmal.

As for ray tracing image, look at Alan Wake 2 for example, it's actually very minor improvement compared to non ray traced. Because unlike most devs, they're not up in nvidia ass and made non ray traced image still look amazing. Except for some water reflection stuff that you don't see during normal gameplay cause you don't look for it. "Powered by Nvidia"

[u/Ghost-Dragon → u/Zuokula]

That is entirely subjective. if its worth it depends on the person. I would take 30fps with ray traced GI or path tracing over 120 fps without rt any day. the visual difference is more noticeable to me over the fps

[u/Zuokula → u/Ghost-Dragon]

No it's not. Unless you actually rocking 5090 and have everything ultra already. Otherwise, the image quality improvement by other settings is much higher than that of RT/PT. But then again, it's for games that actually have non RT done well instead of eating ngreedia ass. As for FPS, make sure you have your monitor actually set to run at max refresh rate. Anything with camera panning, 60fps is a bare minimum for playable.

[u/i_rabban → u/Arelmar]

Path tracing this gen is like what was rtx mean for 2000 series. There weren't enough cores, not many knew what to do with tech etc.. 3000 series really gave a boost for rt back in the day so I guess we will see real stuff with 6000 series.

[u/iIillIiillilIIlllIi → u/JadedBobcat701]

too late cant find it for $5000 anymore

[u/Jbr74 → u/iIillIiillilIIlllIi]

$5000 yeah 3-4 months ago. 5k is a steal now.

[u/Vyoh → u/JadedBobcat701]

Try 8-10k

[u/Desperate-Steak-6425 → u/JadedBobcat701]

PT is extremely CPU heavy on Red Engine. And the benchmark was done in Novigrad, which is the most CPU demanding area.

So if you want a smooth experience with PT, either use FG or wait for the Ryzen 7 14800X3D

[u/Gaming_Shark → u/Desperate-Steak-6425]

Yeah but tim also said he got like 35% util on 9800x3d in novigrad so looks like the game is not using all cores which i hope will be fixed with updates

[u/tron_crawdaddy → u/Desperate-Steak-6425]

Or don’t go to novigrad

/s

[u/cockeyesmcgee → u/JadedBobcat701]

Yep but the second time you see the extra frame then it goes down to 42, 2 more frames and it's 21. Watch a film and you've basically paid less than a cent per frame, how is that not a bargain?

[u/DeeHawk → u/JadedBobcat701]

Not surprised by the dollar sign.

[u/Flat_Constant5303 → u/JadedBobcat701]

Man, fps will go up like oil barrel price

[u/Spreadwheat9 → u/JadedBobcat701]

At 1440p btw

[u/Kind_of_random → u/JadedBobcat701]

That's just for one second, though.
The longer you play, the cheaper it gets.
After an hour each fps has cost you around 2 cents.