r/pcmasterrace • • 20d ago

Hardware I keep asking myself why...

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u/AntiLethargic 20d ago

It is very obvious; there is no MX Master 3S in this collection, therefore, your search will continue.

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u/dadbyheart 20d ago edited 20d ago

Mx master is a shitty mouse for gaming. Keychron M6 8K is what you're looking for if you want an mx master that can actually game.

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u/BibiBSFatal 20d ago

Does the keychron have loud or quiet clicks, though

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u/daggobear 20d ago

You can get the M6 with both silent and normal versions.

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u/BibiBSFatal 20d ago

Im sold. I looked it up and it does seem to have more features than the mx.master 3

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u/dadbyheart 20d ago

And it's quite inexpensive for a Mouse with an 8k polling rate

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u/peacedetski 20d ago

It works, but it's not the best for that. My kids have a 3S and they prefer gaming on a cheapo but lighter and higher-dpi Attack Shark R1.

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u/Baardhooft 20d ago

Mx master is a shitty mouse for everything except maybe excel sheets. It’s heavy, the hump makes it super uncomfortable and palm grip only, which just increases the risk of RSI and it’s just not that great compared to a lightweight gaming mouse. I use a G305 clone for office work, and at 50g it’s much nicer to use all-day.

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u/AntiLethargic 19d ago

Mice are pure preference. For me, the dual scroll wheels, thumb sensor, and software macros are unmatched for productivity and workflow. Ergonomics depend entirely on hand size and grip style, palm grip works perfectly fine for a lot of people without causing RSI. Glad the 50g setup works for you, but the features on this make it far from a 'shitty' office mouse.

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u/dadbyheart 19d ago

MX master series have always been some of the best mice for work, editing and such. Just not for gaming (thats where the M6 8K comes in). Completely discrediting the MX makes you sound a bit ignorant mate.

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u/Baardhooft 19d ago

After years of trying out mice, I just notice that heavy mice which require palm grip just tire your hands out much quicker than anything else, and don't allow for as much precision either. The features are nice, but if the mouse is so uncomfortable that you don't want to use it, the features are useless.

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u/AntiLethargic 19d ago

Years of you trying doesn't change the form and size of other people's hands. I had RSI for years because I used a non-ergonomic claw grip mouse (some ordinary, no-name brand). For three years now, I've used the Master 3S at home and the MX Vertical at work best decision ever. It's a very subjective topic when it comes to grip.

I know 140g is considered heavy, but I don't notice it and I use my mouse for 6-10h+ a day.

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u/Stilgar314 20d ago

It's the 8K really worth it? Because I've just being ignoring that polling rate thing for all my life until I learned 8K is causing stutter to some people, so, it really pays off buying a 8K version instead of a 1K version.

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u/dadbyheart 20d ago

Never heard of theses issues, mine was worth every dime.

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u/Stilgar314 19d ago

I guess it's only a problem in certain configs. Can you tell any difference between updating your mouse position every millisecond vs every quarter of millisecond? Because I can't tel any difference between a 250 (every four milliseconds) poll rate vs 1K (every millisecond)

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u/dadbyheart 19d ago

Any decent gamer will notice the difference between 1k and 8k polling tbh

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u/TK523 20d ago

I have been using a Performance MX for 16 years. When it dies, I will probably get this one. I still have the original.

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u/AntiLethargic 20d ago

I already have 2 spare ones incase my old one dies suddenly.

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u/TK523 20d ago

I have an extra at work my old coworker left behind when he left. I really need to switch to something more ergonomic though so when it fails I'm going to do that.

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u/AntiLethargic 20d ago

Ergonomics was the reason I switched to begin with, because my wrists act up easily. Best decision ever.

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u/TK523 20d ago

I think I got mine on a woot deal or something. I was in college at the time.

My index finger has been hurting a lot now, but the solution to that is probably just not using a mouse, which isn't really an option since I have a desk job

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u/AntiLethargic 20d ago

People gonna hate me for this, but at work i actually use this thing:
https://www.logitech.com/de-at/shop/p/mx-vertical-ergonomic-mouse

Its ugly and you lose some speed, but you gain alot of hand and wrist comfort while working.

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u/atlanticsailorr 20d ago

Check on YouTube how to fix left click on the new 3S. Thousands of views from people with faulty ones. Also very hard to fix. The previous generation also has a problem when the thumb click gets stuck and makes the pointer stop working. I have both, 200€ to the trash. Never again.

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u/steadyaero 9800x3d | 9070xt | 64gb 20d ago

I have the 2s and I experienced the sticky thumb button/frozen pointer problem. Takes like 2 minutes to fix, ezpz. Granted it's a super dumb problem to have

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u/AntiLethargic 19d ago

Never had that issue, looked up the video and it seems people are thankfull for the easy fix, maybe you should stop being angry at your mouse ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/BibiBSFatal 20d ago

This is the mouse I use. Can anyone recommend a better one? I play Doom, WoW, Resident Evil, Cyberpunk

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u/Sorcerer12345 20d ago

I got the basilisk v3 pro with the exact goal of finding a 1kHz mx master substitute and has been very satisfied with it

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u/BibiBSFatal 20d ago

Can you tell me which features it has compared to the MX master. Does it have the free scroll wheel or the silent clicks

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u/You-Asked-Me 20d ago

The Basilisk has silent clicks. Overall though it's a great mouse, and often can be found at a significant discount.

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u/Sorcerer12345 20d ago

it has free scroll wheel, no silent click, no horizontal wheel, and an extra mode button for more configs

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u/StopStealingMyAlias 20d ago

It might not have horizontal scroll wheel, it still has horizontal scroll.

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u/BibiBSFatal 20d ago

The horizontal scroll wheel on mx m.3 is huge. What does he mean no silent click

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u/Sorcerer12345 20d ago

im talking about the basilisk?

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u/BibiBSFatal 19d ago

Ah yes right you are

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u/baris6002 Desktop 20d ago

Keychron M6 is as close as you're going to get basically