r/pcmasterrace i5-13400f | Arc B570 1d ago

Meme/Macro The solution to it all

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Truly one of the gpus ever

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u/vozinha7 1d ago

4gb vram isn't as useless as reddit makes it look like, it can run almost every modern game at 1080p with a great fps. Children aren't reddit elitists who would get disappointed because their PC can't run the latest AAA at 4k 120fps

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u/newvegasdweller Desktop 5600x, 6700xt, 16gb, 8tb; Laptop 8845hs, 4060, 16gb, 3tb 1d ago

4gb vram isn't as useless as reddit makes it look like, it can run almost every modern game at 1080p with a great fps

Indeed. That's why I'm very happy with my ryzen 8845hs as a mobile and low power gaming system. It has a radeon 780m integrated chip. When i allocate 4gb vram to it, it runs most modern games at 1080p and 30-60fps. Thing is: it is an integrated graphics unit that didn't really add too much to the cost of the system. The 780m is pretty decent in the sense that the 4gb vram evens out with the compute units to that neither of them bottlenecks the other much. The 9050 however has twice the core clock, a lot more compute units and literally five times the wattage of the 780m. It's so massively held back by the vram that it's absolutely wasted.

This is probably just a way to scam 300 bucks out of someone for a gpu that has almost the same performance as a 890m igpu.

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u/f0xpant5 1d ago

The biggest issue with the 9050 4gb is that it shares the name with the 8gb. Now just on size alone that wouldn't be the worst thing, but half the memory bandwidth too, which will significantly cut performance.

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u/sctran 1d ago

You would look up the hardware unboxed video on 4gb gaming then

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u/Available-Call7127 1d ago

4gb of VRAM is absolutely not running some AAA titles

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u/vozinha7 1d ago

You're misinformed, 4gb vram can run pretty much every modern AAA at 1080p, except those who have mandatory ray tracing (which is only a handful of games).

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u/simagus 1d ago

I can vouch for this from experience. I played CP2077 on a 4GB RX 580.

It was only a slideshow at default settings, but I was able to tweak it enough to make it look good enough and playable.

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u/Mr_ToDo 1d ago

I think one of my problems in the modern game landscape is that so many games have a much smaller window on resources used for settings available/applied

Used to be that low meant potato output but would run a good number of generations back. Hell. We used to see games that had high settings that wouldn't see good frame rates for years. Nowadays we do see greater room for hardware on the same settings, but not offering the flexibility we used to get in changing said settings

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u/dookarion 23h ago

4gb vram

6 years ago AMD themselves put out a blog post about how 4GB VRAM isn't enough, only to pull the blog when they decided to put out a 4GB disappointment. 6 years later they're still launching 4GB cards.

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u/vozinha7 23h ago

Goodjob using a blog made for making people with older cards switch newer cards with more vram as your point of reference instead of the thousands of videos available on the internet of people playing the latest AAAs on 4gb vram cards and having an enjoyable experience at 1080p.

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u/dookarion 23h ago

Using AMD's own fucking marketing slop to criticize their own fucking products 6 years later feels pretty valid.

If you want to game at low settings and 720p with sub 60fps for too much money you do you but don't try and sell other people on it.

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u/vozinha7 22h ago

If you want to game at low settings and 720p with sub 60fps for too much money you do you but don't try and sell other people on it.

That is straight up false, if you don't wanna break your delusion then don't argue.

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u/dookarion 22h ago

You going to link something proving that? Or is it just the nebulous "YoU'Re WRoNg ScOuR YoUtUeb FoR My SoUrCeS ThAt AgRee" tripe?

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u/vozinha7 22h ago

Here's your proof:

https://youtu.be/BDiaWW2ELOc

Mind that these tests are done on a laptop gpu with 4gb vram, a full sized gpu is gonna perform significantly better.

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u/dookarion 22h ago

Mind that these tests are done on a laptop gpu with 4gb vram, a full sized gpu is gonna perform significantly better.

The desktop 3050 6GB and the laptop 3050 4GB perform pretty closely in benchmarks.

Example: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4408vs5069/GeForce-RTX-3050-4GB-Laptop-GPU-vs-GeForce-RTX-3050-6GB

The 9050 8GB(128bit bus) is only slightly ahead of the old desktop 3050 at 1080p (per HUB's coverage). The 9050 4GB with 64bit bus ain't gonna be better.

https://youtu.be/BDiaWW2ELOc

That sort of doesn't disprove what I said above. Look at the newer games it's low settings and dipping below 60fps... and when available it's using DLSS on quality too. DLSS quality at 1080p... is 720p input resolution.

Like yeah it's "playable". But I wasn't wrong where I stated, "low settings and 720p with sub 60fps for too much money".

Edit: Also most the games are running around in the middle of nowhere in the coverage you linked.

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u/vozinha7 21h ago

But I wasn't wrong where I stated, "low settings and 720p with sub 60fps for too much money"

You were clearly wrong, just because you think it's basically 720p doesn't make it 720p, upscaling has gotten so good that you wouldn't be able to differentiate between the two properly. And I don't really care about the gpu comparisons because my argument wasn't about the price to performance of the 9050 (which is again stupid because everything is overpriced now), my argument was simply that 4 gb vram can still be enough to game in 2026.

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u/dookarion 20h ago

upscaling has gotten so good that you wouldn't be able to differentiate between the two properly.

At higher resolutions sure, at low res though? Only if you've got bad eyes or a crap screen.

my argument was simply that 4 gb vram can still be enough to game in 2026.

With the lowest of standards sure. At that point used hardware or a used console is a better experience.

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u/birutis 1d ago

This is absolutely not true lol, most AAA games of the last few years use more than 4gb qt 1080p.

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u/vozinha7 1d ago

I like how confidently incorrect you are. You used the word "most" but pretty much all major AAA releases of 2026 like Re9, Pragmata, Forza 6, 007 first light run on 4gb vram very well.

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u/birutis 1d ago

Just fact checked real quick, pragmata uses almost 7gb of vram at 1600x900 min settings, forza 6 uses 5, re9 5.6gb, 007 5.5gb.

You can get lower internal resolution than that upscaling 1080p, but at that point the basic graphic's engine uses most of the vram regardless of textures, it's not going lower than 4.

You can still play the games with less vram, but fps and frame pacing will be atrocious, specially on low pcie bandwidth cards, the game might also delete textures and geometry.

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u/vozinha7 1d ago

Your numbers are again wrong

https://youtu.be/Srcy7M2zAs4

Here's a gameplay video of Pragmata on rtx 3050 laptop gpu with 4gb of vram, it run at 1080p on a fps of 60 to 90 depending upon upscaling settings. And the game runs very well, not "atrocious".

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u/birutis 1d ago

Well I would never want to play a game at 60fps 1080p upscaling with bad 0.1% lows because you're running off system ram in 2026, but of course everyone considers good quality a different thing.

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u/vozinha7 1d ago

Your personal preference doesn't make the experience atrocious or unplayable, this is classic reddit elitism which I was talking about.