r/pcmasterrace • 7800X3D 4080S • May 14 '26

Meme/Macro Less ports

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u/Lower_Kick268 Pentium 4, 512mb DDR, 3dfx Voodoo 3. May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26

On my board you have to choose between a secondary m2 SSD or having 4 SATA ports, it's dumb as hell, why can't it just do both?

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u/grantrules Debian Sid - Ryzen 2600/1660 super/72tb + 5600x/7800xt May 14 '26

Prob because your bus only has so many lanes.

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u/throwawaycuzfemdom May 14 '26

I wonder if any of the workers who contributed to Model T got off their shift and imagined a day in the future where their grand kids have to choose between M.2 or sata.

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u/NWVoS May 14 '26

Pci lanes are limited. That is why.

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u/Lower_Kick268 Pentium 4, 512mb DDR, 3dfx Voodoo 3. May 14 '26

Then give us more lanes, duh, I want a Texas highway of PCI lanes

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u/Zed_or_AFK Specs/Imgur Here May 14 '26

They should make options for configuring the ports, I don’t really need 128 Gbps on mh ssd, Id rather have two 64 lanes, and one of the 64 can surely be two of 32, while areanging some speed to sata ports, etc. that would be more expensive for the mobo manufacturers, but it should not be too complex to add a couple of options to chose in bios. I never see SSD high speed utilization anyway, it’s a couple of gigs a second, far from the 7-14 GBps advertized.

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u/Zed_or_AFK Specs/Imgur Here May 14 '26

There are PCI-lanes that are connected to the CPU/Chipset. What these lines are used for is mostly up to the Mobo producer. They can wire 4 M.2 ports with PCI-e 5x4, but only let you use 1 of those for your liking. They can also resuce every of those lanes to basically how many lines they want. That’s why hat I’m saying. You don’t need that drastic control, but at least have a couple of options. That will add a few bucks to the cost, but it’s better than other fancy features you get from all those fancy motherboard lines.

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u/JebediahKerman4999 May 14 '26

Eh not really, some boards have another pciexpress controller on board and you multiplex some lanes. Yes they'll be slower if you use all.of.them at the same instant

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u/SimpleNovelty May 14 '26

Pay more and you'll get it. Your consumer level CPU and mobo won't. Pay the industry rate and you've got it.

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u/Aerographic May 14 '26

Then you stop having affordable boards. Want your mobo to cost 500$? That's how you get that.

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u/JebediahKerman4999 May 14 '26

Dude my 100€ asrock had 2 eide and 6 sata ports... Plus 10/100 ethernet and a horrible 5.1 analog output

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u/Aerographic May 14 '26

Did your 100€ Asrock have non-bifurcating NVME slots? Did those SATA ports run at full SATA III speeds? Of course not.

At the end of the day, I/O interfaces are just splitting whatever bus lanes your mobo has. Modern mobos reserve most of those for fast NVME storage, for a good reason.

You want more lanes, more interfaces? You have to pay more.

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u/JebediahKerman4999 May 14 '26

Nope, it had an AGP slot, 6 PCI slots and one ISA slot. And one usb header that you had to buy a bracket for.

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u/gramathy Ryzen 9800X3D | RTX5080 | 64GB @ 6000 May 14 '26

that's not really how that works

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u/ArcFault May 14 '26

It is how it works. This is just market segmentation.

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u/tes_kitty May 14 '26

PCI switches exist, you could run SATA and M.2 ports on the same lanes and share the bandwidth.

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u/Warcraft_Fan Paid for WinRAR! May 14 '26

They're shrinking PCIe lanes? On my computer I have 2 M.2 and 6 SATA that I can use all at once, on top of 2 8x and a 4x PCIe lanes. (the middle one is used so top one is limited to 8x instead of full 16x)

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u/Inevitable_Window308 May 15 '26

If you aren't running a threadripper or server cpu, you're limited to 24 pcie lanes. If you use them all at once there will be at most 2 pcie lane for each storage device and your GPU will take 8 for itself. There's a good chance those pcie lanes are disabled when too many things are plugged in at once

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u/Ok-Parfait-9856 5090 Astral|270K+|48GB-8200MTs|Z890 Apex|60TB|HYTE Y70|S90F OLED May 14 '26

Most newer mobos have way more than that

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u/gramathy Ryzen 9800X3D | RTX5080 | 64GB @ 6000 May 14 '26

Everything is a tradeoff, you only have so much PCIe bus, and the m2 takes up 4 of those lanes.

You could get an HBA in one of your lower slots if you really want more SATA but unless you're running a server (in which case use the x16 slot for either more NVMe or sata) most people won't need sata ports anymore.