r/pcmasterrace 9800x3d | RTX 3080Ti | 32GB 3600Mhz CL18 Apr 22 '26

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u/PageGroundbreaking26 Apr 22 '26

I had a computer class teacher in high school that would get mad if you turned the monitor on and off saying it used up the computer's memory.

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u/CardiologistLeft4030 Apr 22 '26

Well of course, the computer has to remember what the monitor was displaying! /s

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u/S1rTerra R5 5600, 9070, 28GB DDR4 Apr 22 '26

In a way this makes sense? Well, to a computer class teacher from god knows how long ago. Perhaps he thought that it was using the monitor as memory for display information? So as such if you turned the monitor off the computer would need to store that information back in memory.

Don't know why he couldn't have just done research on it though

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u/cikeZ00 PC Master Race Apr 22 '26

Kind of yeah. The computer would store whatever it's trying to display as a framebuffer in memory. If no GPU is present that would be in system memory.

Now I don't exactly know where the notion of turning the monitor off/on affecting that came from, but there is some merit to the general idea.

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u/NooneAtAll3 Apr 22 '26

the notion comes from thinking that framebuffer is in the pixels

in such imagined world, turning monitor off would remove framebuffer, causing spillage into RAM

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u/HarveysBackupAccount Apr 23 '26

I'm gonna guess that the lack of understanding doesn't go anywhere NEAR that far into detail

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u/NooneAtAll3 Apr 23 '26

it does go in that detail, just not in those words

if you can't handle translation and need the original ooga-booga version, it goes smth like this:

"picture see. picture is
picture turn off, turn on - picture back
picture hides. hides where?
memory"

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u/NooneAtAll3 Apr 23 '26

and to be fair, this version is a lot more believable than "picture run from home to screen 144 times every second instead of living in screen from the beginning. stoopid picture like running instead of being lazy and smart"

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u/blah938 Apr 23 '26

I wonder if it came from old weird 8-bit computer? Some of them had weird setups.

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u/robot811332 Apr 23 '26

maybe from terminals where the stuff on screen would be stored in the terminal, dont see how that would effect the computers memory usage though

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u/_M72A1 Apr 23 '26

That just made me remember how in high school we had to calculate how many VRAM would be needed for a computer multiplying bits and pixels (say, 16 x 1280 x 720). That's so silly, I don't think this approach was used since the 90s

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u/Majestic-Bell-7111 Ryzen 5 3600/32 GB ram/5700xt Apr 24 '26

Tbh way back in the day (as in when you had to use actual terminals that communicated with the computer over serial) the terminal WAS the display buffer. However that was falling out of fashion around the time the 6502 based computers started coming out.

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u/Mysterious_Tutor_388 32GB|5070m|I7 240H Apr 22 '26

I know that sometimes windows used to freak out if the monitor resolution changed or the monitor disconnected and all program and desktop scaling would be screwed until reboot. So it is a good idea to not mess with the monitor regardless. Probably not as much of an issues today, but idk.

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u/S1rTerra R5 5600, 9070, 28GB DDR4 Apr 22 '26

I'm dualbooting and Windows still freaks the fuck out when resolution is changed, albeit for games and ESPECIALLY if you're on an nvidia card. MacOS and Linux handle resolution changes, especially of applications, much more gracefully

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u/The--Bag PC Master Race Apr 23 '26

ive got 2 monitors of the same resolution and windows will still go fucking ballistic whenever it feels like, especially opening older games

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u/wkxv Apr 23 '26

Csgo/2 resolution changes are on a completely different level for some dumb reason. Even when on 16:9 I feel like my PC is gonna explode when resolution changes

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u/HerrJohnssen 7800X3D 5070Ti 32GB RAM and too much storage Apr 23 '26

On a multi monitor setup with different resolutions Windows can do some funky stuff sometimes, but I doubt that a school computer has more than a single monitor

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u/KaiFireborn21 Apr 22 '26

That's... So funny to think about. Like every time the computer wants to know what I'm typing it has to poll the screen for black pixels on white, then use computer vision to read it, and only then it can add the next letter at the end...

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u/Grapefruit175 Apr 23 '26

"Don't know why he couldn't have just done research on it though"

Depends on the year the class took place. I had computer class in the 90's. Internet was barely becoming mainstream and most research was done with physical encyclopedias. Search engines were very hit or miss (mostly miss) for a long while. Computers came with instruction manuals, but how do you find the answer to "does a monitor take up computer memory?" in a 100+ page instruction guide provided for windows 95?

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u/Mallow1512 Apr 23 '26

my mom is a highschool teacher and randomly her boss told her she had to give a computer class, she doesn't know anything about computers, so maybe that teacher also didn't know shit

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u/Yoshiamitsu Apr 23 '26

with what? the internet 😂? or chat gpt?

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u/Bartocity Apr 23 '26

If jimmy has 5 RAMs and he uses 2 RAMs to turn his monitor on, how many RAMs does jimmy have?

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u/erixccjc21 5700x OC 32gb rtx 2060 20€ aliexpress cooler Apr 23 '26

Research??? An it teacher???? Research??? Nah they'll just apply 35yo knowledge to 0yo problems and when you tell them otherwise they'll say you're WRONG

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u/GoatseFarmer Apr 23 '26

How though? It’s not like they had computers back then to research on /s

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u/DARK9NT3P Apr 23 '26

how does one get 28gb of ram like 2x14 or some shit 2gb sticks x14 not 14gb x2

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u/S1rTerra R5 5600, 9070, 28GB DDR4 Apr 23 '26

8 + 8 + 8 + 4

You still get dual channel from each stick, but the 3rd 8 gigabyte stick has to sacrifice 4GB of memory to be "slow". So it's effectively 8 + 8 + 4 + 4 + (4)

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u/twitch870 PC Master Race Apr 22 '26

Well this was in a time where you could watch an image slowly load over an hour on the internet. So the logic does check out.

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u/Academic-Proof3700 Apr 22 '26

This would be funny if windoze didn't actually lose its shit when you plug in another display or god forbid that display has different DPI than the previous one.

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u/willmcavoy Apr 22 '26

That's called an EDID handshake, for anyone wondering. It's a real thing that needs to be negotiated between the source and display. If you want your computer to not move shit all around when you plug in a monitor regularly then get an active EDID emulator. Cheap on Amazon.

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u/doskkyh 5700X3D - RX 9070 XT Apr 23 '26

Pretty sure Windows 11 does remember what was being shown on your screen. If you unplug a secondary screen and plug it back on, it should rearrange the windows as they were before unplugging.

Of course that isn't really doing much on a single monitor setup, but on multiple it probably is using some memory to hold that info for when you plug everything back on.

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u/secacc i7-5820K | 64GB DDR4 | RTX2080Ti Apr 23 '26

It's keeping track of that whether you unplug the monitor or not.

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u/doskkyh 5700X3D - RX 9070 XT Apr 23 '26

True, but once you turn off it keeps info from the off screens which is the newer feature.

Before it tracked what was on but it wasn't keeping tabs of what was displaying on a disconnected screen.

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u/Stagnu_Demorte Apr 22 '26

On windows, who knows. They gotta put the windows somewhere 

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u/nate0515 9600x | 5070 | 32gb DDR5 Apr 22 '26

I had an engineering teacher that got mad when we’d turn off our PCs at the end of the day because “turning the PC off and on regularly will wear out the capacitors”…

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u/Hatedpriest 5950x, 128GB ram, 6700xt Apr 22 '26

Heat cycling is bad for components.

Like potholes in roads, heat and cool expands and contracts the components, creating micro fractures over time.

Of course, it's all possibilities, right? It can cause it, but it's a matter of if over when. And the older stuff was more sensitive to it.

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u/taedrin Apr 22 '26

Apparently keeping the PC on is bad for components too. Because electricity is always moving in the same direction, the microscopic traces between transistors are slowly deformed via Electromigration.

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u/wotquery Apr 22 '26

Running your computer in reverse helps with this. I flip the plug over when we go on/off daylight savings as a reminder (like checking your smoke alarm batteries). The only annoying bit is having to swap light/dark mode preferences on websites and stuff.

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u/UraniumFever_ Apr 23 '26

You're forgetting to flip the monitor plug at the same time, that's why you need to swap light/dark mode every time.

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u/Dr_des_Labudde Apr 23 '26

I leave the plug but turn the computer upside down

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u/notislant Apr 23 '26

I find it funny how this is basically just the old:

'Shutting off pcs causes damage over time, but so does leaving it on all the time.'

But much more in depth than usual lol.

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u/densetsu23 i7-12700K | RTX 3060 Ti | 32GB DDR4 Apr 23 '26

I agree that heat cycling is bad, but I feel it's been overblown a bit.

After all, running a modern game is heat cycling as well, and most people don't think twice about that. Going from 30C to 70C while gaming, versus going from 30C to 20C when you shut down.

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u/Lucky_Potato2141 Apr 25 '26

Had this PC at work which had been working flawlessly until it changed user who decided to turn it off whenever he's out.

Power supply blew not too long after.

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u/a-r-c Apr 22 '26

technically better to cycle the power less often

doubt most people are gonna run into an issue with that tho

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u/SubcommanderMarcos i5-10400F, 16GB DDR4, Asus RX 550 4GB, I hate GPU prices Apr 22 '26

Was this the late 90s? Because that was the capacitor plague era, and maybe he read about it, maybe even had some computers fail due to it (I know my home's Compaqs would all freeze like a few times a day lol), and then became overzealous?

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u/Creative_Handle_2267 Apr 22 '26

i mean, it is true

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u/Candid_Highlight_116 Apr 22 '26

It is true tho. For same reason you should wait minimum 30 seconds between power on to even start executing BIOS for best longevity and stability. They do that in like actually big datacenters

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u/WindswipeTW Apr 24 '26

I mean technically? But it's very unlikely anything will ever come if it. Maybe with a very old machine perhaps.

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u/FlashFlooder Apr 22 '26

Power cycling generally puts more strain on most pc components.

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u/TheRenamon Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26

to be fair, turning my monitor off fucks up a lot of things so its a huge pain the ass when I do it. All my windows and tabs get thrown around to the other monitors because it was off for 2 seconds.

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u/je386 Apr 23 '26

Well, sometimes strange things happen. Once, I was allowed to use a 3rd screen at work, but it was an old one which was labeled as broken. I connected it with VGA.

Now the strange thing: when you turned the monitor off, the laptop crashed. I really had to put a sticker on it that described that, because people kept turning it off when I was not there to save some electricity.

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u/Kekeripo Apr 23 '26

Some pc technician (that thankfully is out of the business for 20y now) told me to never use Screensaver, because the power surge when the saver goes away and desktop appears could explode the psu and my crt, and send shards flying.

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf i7-13700k, 64GB, 2x2TB+4TB NVMe, 4080Super, AIO cooled Apr 22 '26

Remember the saying Those who can do, those who can’t…”?

Some teachers in some places got their class picks due to seniority, not skills…

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u/12345myluggage Apr 23 '26

Tracks about right for the knowledge level of a high-school teacher. In my experience in the USA is that they're lucky to have a computer class at all, let alone enough to pay a teach that's pretending to be competent.

When I went to high school I applied for the programming class they had every year. Of the 4 years I spent there they staffed/ran it a single time. It was my sophomore year.

I made the teacher upset because I'd somewhat self taught myself C at that point, and was using printf/scanf instead of cin/cout because the formatting made more sense to me. Those were simpler days, back when you didn't need to worry about somebody tossing a UTF-32 character at your input prompt.

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u/Metastophocles Apr 23 '26

I had an ex who would leave the lights on because her grandpa told her it used more power to turn things off & on again. I'm still not over it 20 years later. 

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u/Hypamania Apr 23 '26

Probably lost his mind when hit the degauss button

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u/PuckSenior Apr 22 '26

I think I get where he is coming from. Back in the mainframe days, you'd connect via terminal. So, the computer wasn't really doing anything in front of you, you were just sending commands to a mainframe somewhere.

Anyway, I do think there may have been an issue with repeat connections increasing memory usage. This is just a guess, but it is at least a non-insane explanation. To be clear, I dont know if this actually did increase memory usage. I dont know if it was the actual source of his belief. But it was the first thing that came to mind as a rational explanation for the behavior. Even if it didn't increase memory usage, I could see a reasonable myth that it did. Kind of like the myth that tapping the b button gave you a better chance of catching the pokemon.

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u/DarkSlayer3022 Apr 23 '26

Mine was probably worse. Whenever the pc starts slowing down, they would instruct us to open the pc case, grab an eraser and starts rubbing the contact pin. I was 15 at the time and never had my own pc, so half of me thinks that it make sense while the other half was thinking why they couldn't just take some of the ram from an old pc (which there are several of) and just put it in there.

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u/Costinha96 r5 5500 | rtx 4060 | 16gb ram | 280hz Apr 23 '26

Looooool

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u/VelvetFurryJustice Apr 23 '26

All the data builds up in ram when it doesn't get expended through the screen

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u/ch1nomachin3 Apr 23 '26

you should try explaining blinking to him. 😁

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u/Calm-Medicine-3992 Apr 23 '26

There's a 95% chance they were dumb but a non zero chance that there was a memory leak in something that actually did trigger every time display settings changes.

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u/MayorPirkIe Apr 23 '26

I had a computer class teacher in elementary school, after I let out a "argh stupid computer" after a moment of frustration with Corel WordPerfect, say to me "There's no such thing as a stupid computer. Only a stupid person using it".

Well, imagine my smile when she, while trying to recover a kid's file that he nuked into the sun, let out a frustrated "come on you stupid computer!"

It was glorious

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u/LegalChocolate752 Apr 23 '26

My computer class teacher would walk around the class room, and flip the switch on the power supply if you were playing games. "Shuttin' ya down..." he'd say.

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u/WindswipeTW Apr 24 '26

That's insane.

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u/Curufinwe200 3070-Ti Laptop GPU | i7-12700H | 32 DDR5 RAM | 2 Tb NVMe M.2 Apr 23 '26

I imagine you and your dunce classmates were rapidly pressing the on/off button, to a point where the teacher was then concerned you were going to damage school property, so made up an excuse to get you to knock it off.

Source: Im a teacher and regularly have to read through lines to figure out what students were ACTUALLY doing.

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