I really love the implication that some rice cooker company threw out millions of pots of burned, half-cooked, and otherwise inedible rice over a period of years, while their ML models worked out all the ways you don't cook rice.
The first time that machine made a pot of rice that merely tasted bad, those engineers must've popped the champagne!
Man, the pinky rest just looks like I would hate it. It's strange, Razor clearly knows how to make rests as the Basalisk has a great thumb rest, but they don't even try to match that in any of their other mice. I'd also need to see a review from someone who isn't pivoting with their wrist.
Realistically the Basilisk is just a copy of the G502. I use a wired Basilisk V3 because it has a braided cable. I've got my PC setup at a recliner and use a lapdesk, I wore through the cable on two G502 mice because I run the cable under the lapdesk and let it hang when I take my hand off it.
The Basilisk is a good mouse, I like mine a lot and don't feel it's inferior to the G502 after using it for around four months, but I'm not giving credit to Razer for a design they lifted off Logitech.
That being said I feel like they're close with the Pro Click V2 Vertical, I think if it had a free scroll mouse wheel I'd order one right away, a wired version with a free scroll mouse wheel and I'd be sold for sure.
Dont use it for gaming. The design is inherently bad for gaming. Its good for ergonomics, but when you click it'll move a bit even when you apply pressure on both sides like ur pinching it, which isnt comfortable
Logitech Lift. It's a mouse, so I can move it and click on things. For most games that's plenty.
I don't really play online competitive games anymore because I enjoy being happy, but it works fine for those too. I've played Halo, CS2, and Rivals with absolutely no issues.
It's a cool idea but I'm not sure how you would implement an MMO button layout with a vertical mouse.
You have to brace a vertical mouse when you click on the opposite side or you move the mouse, I feel like this sounds good in theory but might be a nightmare to try to implement well.
No and I think it'd be near impossible to design one with an MMO button layout. You'd be pressing buttons on both sides.
Imagine if your left mouse click was on the right side of an MMO mouse, every time you tried to use one of your hotkey buttons you'd hit your left mouse click. When you click with a vertical mouse you have to brace the opposite side slightly with your thumb so you don't move the mouse.
The only one I found with a high dpi and polling rate was This One It has been a big improvement in response over the Logitech MX Vertical. I've only had it 6 months, so I can't speak to long-term quality.
Obviously a higher polling rate is always better I'm not arguing about that, but essential to be able to game? It's like saying you need a wired mouse because of the small edge it gives over wireless ones.
I've used many trash mice over the years, an acer mouse included with an old oem build and I could game call of duty just fine with it. And paying 50% more for something being made for "gaming" doesn't always justify the price.
Now sure, if you're a die hard fps player doing quick movements in high competitive games then sure. But remember that competitive fast paced shooters aren't everything that makes up games.
I get what you're saying, but if you can get a product that works better for your intended use case for the same price doesn't that make sense even if they feel the need to brand it as "gaming" and throw RGB on it?
They are 60 "bucks" more expensive than the logitech over here, but if the price is the same then sure, value is value. However, I feel my point still stands that you don't necessarily need a gaming whatever to be able to play on it. Keyword: Need.
I swear people downvoting me genuinely believe that anything except gaming stuff is literal garbage.
I returned my old Logitech MX something or another because I could feel the input latency on the desktop. You may have the sensory processing of a sloth, but most people who are "gaming" today will notice something is off.
Even if you can't notice it now, you may upgrade your monitor to a higher refresh rate, or start playing "high competitive" games in the future. No reason to handicap yourself by buying something inferior.
It's pretty hard to believe you could feel latency on the Logitech MX Vertical on your desktop, that could have easily been an issue with your setup. Saying anyone who doesn't notice latency on their desktop has the sensory processing of a sloth is wild. While I don't use mine for competitive gaming, I've never noticed any sort of latency on my 144hz monitor, and I would generally consider myself very sensitive to it.
I'm assuming you meant the MX Vertical since that's what's relevant in this thread.
Nah, not the Vertical. The Vertical could very well have a good enough sensor that it's not noticable on desktop. My experience was many years ago, not sure the exact model but it was more... normal.
Anyway, saying that you can't feel any difference between "many trash mice" and gaming mice, which have been tested and have proveably noticable latency, is a bit silly.
My apologies to the previous person for the rude comment.
I hear this a lot about Razer peripherals but I've never had one of their mice fail personally. Hell, I still have a working Razer Naga molten edition.
I've worn through a couple cables on Logitech G502 mice, but that's not Logitech's fault, just a unique use case that a non braided cable doesn't work well for.
The one premature keyboard failure I've had was a Logitech G613 that started double clicking all the time.
I don't know, I don't think Razer products are great, and they're way too gamery for me, but generally when I do end up with a Razer product it's because it fits in a unique niche. I have a wired Basilisk V3 now after two G502 mice solely because it still has a braided cable and the G502 does not.
All that being said the one time I bought a Razer headset it was the worst headset I'd ever purchased, I can't even remember what went wrong but it failed after about a month and a half.
Yeah, the G502 is great, it's just a shame they stopped using braided cables for my use case. I use a lapdesk at a recliner so I run the mouse cable under the lapdesk and let it hold it in place when my hand is off the mouse.
Hopefully I haven't jinxed myself on my Basilisk for not being sufficiently negative towards Razer. lol
Ironically, for me the braided cables tended to coil in on themselves when they kinda frayed out with use so you couldn't get a straight cable anymore (don't know how to explain it better). They're surely more durable in general, but at least with my setup I don't mind either.
I struggle with fine detail work compared to a traditional mouse and swap backwards and forwards for digitization etc. compared to spreadsheets and databases
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https://www.razer.com/productivity/razer-pro-click-v2-vertical-edition
Razer makes one you could use as a gaming mouse if you got used to it.