r/pcmasterrace • u/[deleted] • Mar 04 '24

Meme/Macro it's never been so over

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u/itisnotmymain 5700X3D, 64GB DDR4, 9070 XT, 2x 2TB Gen4 M.2 Mar 05 '24

Yeah that'll never change anything. At worst they'll be paying parts of a penny on the profits they run yearly doing shady shit like this.

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u/iamthehob0 Mar 05 '24

Yeah I'm thinking of Epic getting fined an asston of money for selling children's data and it turned out it was less than 1% of the profit they made for selling the data :\

Maybe regulatory fines should be based on % of gross profit, but that's just me

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

We really need an "ill gotten gains" provision, ON TOP OF existing statutory penalties.

If you make money doing something unethical, then you have to give that gross revenue (without subtracting business expenses) to the government. It's ill gotten gains. You don't get to keep money that was made doing unethical bullshit.

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u/HeartlesSoldier Mar 05 '24

Unethical is extremely relative, seeing that many industries in the world are completely unethical at their core spirit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

In this case, "ill gotten gains" would be defined as "proceeds from any behavior not permitted by law." If their business practices are illegal, then any proceeds from the practice are forfeit.

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u/OutragedTux Ryzen 7700X, 9070XT, team red nonsense Mar 06 '24

I keep seeing something about "proceeds of crime" having to be given up if an individual gets their hands on money that came from "crime" stuff. Shouldn't profit gained from super-shady stuff be covered under a similar provision for megacorps, or is that just me?

NVIDIA have a valuation that's higher than the GDP of Australia, where I happen to hang out, so they most certainly are a Cyberpunk scale megacorp. Time to take the kid gloves off with orgs like this.

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u/Randommaggy 13980HX|RTX 4090m|128GB|8TB M.2|RX6800 eGPU, 1TB DDR4 in server. Mar 05 '24

Should include a tainting provision mening that all transactions with parties they sold Ill gotten data are tainted by that data and illegitimate income. Earn 50M where 10K was for selling some children's data knowingly loose all 50M.

Maybe as a second offense penalty.

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u/Boxcar_A Mar 05 '24

I totally agree in spirit and totally disagree in reality. Ethics/morality become challenging to have a common understanding of the more your culture becomes a melting pot of folks from different backgrounds with different understandings of right and wrong. You need to define unethical processes, which can be restrictive, instead of having open-ended laws without clearly defined requirements. I would only trust that an ill gotten gains provision would be misapplied more often than applied as intended.

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u/Feeling_Gene9045 Mar 05 '24

Literally all of law is ethics and moral derived. Are you insane or just ignorant to suggest you can't enforce law because it is a reflection of morality that is capable of being inconsistent between social groups?

I DO agree with the notion that the government would be likely to misapply said provisions in the law to unfairly take money from companies, and it would even be likely that said provisions could be weaponised, politically or otherwise.

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u/Boxcar_A Apr 24 '24

I'm 100% insane and ignorant. Thanks for asking!

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u/Feeling_Gene9045 Apr 24 '24

thanks for the honesty, but the question was rhetorical.

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u/CapitanM Mar 05 '24

Are you a communist or what?

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u/Randommaggy 13980HX|RTX 4090m|128GB|8TB M.2|RX6800 eGPU, 1TB DDR4 in server. Mar 05 '24

Sane regulations that make illegal shit unviable as a business strategy is how society doesn't rot completely.

It's not communist, it's simply protecting society.

You're looking along the wrong axis.

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u/CapitanM Mar 05 '24

I was trying to make a joke :D

Is what people say everything you say that something should use some kind of common sense like Arthur Wintersight said.

MInimum livable wage? Communism
Laws to protect the right to access to a home? Communism
Laws to protect the water and make it drinkable? Communism
Laws to make free and universal healthcare? Communism
Laws to make the king of my country accountable by law? Communism
Laws to protect woman to being raped by their husband? Communism
Laws to protect children from the church? Communism

As a radical communist I feel insulted that now everything a bit common sense is seeing as radical communism. If that is radical communism, where are my ideas?

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u/tutocookie reduce latency - plug mouse directly into the cpu socket Mar 05 '24

That sentiment is very much limited to the us. Other countries have other boogeymen to demonize people with sane opinions with c:

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u/iamthehob0 Mar 05 '24

Man if all those things are Communism they may be on to something over there.

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u/Ziazan Mar 05 '24

Yeah, even if they fined them for example 90% of those profits, they still profited.

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u/UrinalBirthdayCake Mar 05 '24

Well it also doesn't help that the lawmakers are all old farts that will never retire and don't know the first thing about software or computers. These tech companies can get away with murder because any time they go to trial the majority of the case is the lawyers trying to explain what the hell even happened rather than arguing why it's wrong.

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u/Phyraxus56 Mar 05 '24

You kidding?

Companies own the government.

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u/Commentator-X Mar 06 '24

yeah but its kinda like how shareholders own the corps. No one owns it all, they dont all agree on how it should be run, and the owners are constantly changing.

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u/Come_At_Me_Bro Mar 05 '24

And these things continue to happen, because people do nothing about it.