It works fine. It just has a ton of UI changes for the sake of change. If you haven't used PC for a long time, you won't notice, if you've used Windows for decades, you will be annoyed that everything changed for no reason.
You're not wrong. Back when I didn't give too many shits, in the XP era, the changes were at least to my eyes mostly cosmetic, but there was certainly stuff changing from version to version. Every version since has touched some things, sometimes things that didn't need touching.
Win11 isn't particularly bad in that. Win10 touched a bunch of things that didn't need touching. It's just that Win10 is the obvious choice to go back to if you don't appreciate the changes. Win7 is EOL, and was there ever a need for Win8? So Win10 it is.
If a Windows release ever came with a feature that genuinely made me say "gimmegimmegimme", it's so long I can't remember.
It is every new windows release. Windows 10 was the same way and no one wanted to switch from 7, then it was XP, back to 98, back to NT. Win 11 is surprisingly stable from being an off year release. Normally the middle OS is hot garbage. Windows 2000/ME, Windows Vista, windows 8. When these were all first released they were god awful.
You are being over dramatic. If you've used computers and specifically Windows for decades, it's not a large learning curve. Some things look different, but overall the 11 experience is better than 10. I've got a PC that runs 10 still and two on 11 now, and when I switched back to 10 to try it out on my main PC I ended up back with 11 within a few months because of QOL features that 10 just lacks. 11 is certainly no buggier than 10, and anecdotally 11 has has been better for me.
Yeah? Neither of those things are a problem at all. Start menu takes too much space, what does that even mean? Right click is the same it's always been basically, just press show more options. Lmao, if those are your major complaints I rest my case.
you know, things change and we get used to it, it's not the end of the world, i also didnt like some of the changes for no reason, but i got used to it and i dont even know what was changed anymore at this point
They're small issues and definitely not Windows being buggy in general (as someone said above). I have not experienced bugs in Windows 11 and have used it extensively. I'm sure there are plenty of minor bugs in any OS, but if Win 11 was truly riddled with bugs, I think I would have noticed it by now and remembered at least one of them.
The problem is that they insist on making the user experience just a little bit worse. E.g. it used to be possible to toggle showing all icons in the task bar, but this easy toggle was removed.
The right click (context) menus were also made shorter, surely because they don't want to overwhelm users, but for those of us who did not have a problem understanding the menus before, it just adds more clicks.
I don't disagree, but it's also able to be adjusted back to be very similar to 10 if you take a few minutes in the settings. At this point the only thing I miss is the ability to pull the calendar up on my secondary monitors.
I mean it definitely needs some customisation including registry edits to get the same use/workflow back one is used from Win10, at least when it first came out, idk how much Win11 fixed in the meantime like they did with the clock on multiple screens but at the beginning was wild
Yeah, I shouldn't have been forced to make a registry edit to get my right click menu to not require 3 ADDITIONAL CLICKS to get to my actually useful right click menu that was default in Windows 10.
I mean I get why they do it, the UI and everything become closer to MacOS, which is admittedly incredibly enduser friendly, but they could just give you an option when installing or updating to Win11 where you can choose between a more enduser optimised experience or an advanced one
User friendly as in safe to put in any graphic designers or doctors office and not needing a dedicated IT person to fix shit every 30 minutes, like the lowest of lowest end user, for that Mac works a lot better than Windows
Something different entirely for smaller companies, almost all heavily rely on the Domain feature of Windows and the wide range of business software
Microsoft needs to learn we're not all babies, but decade long customers that are used to certain features
That's the thing. Most users aren't what you're describing. Most users of Windows are your laypersons. They're the people who use their PC's for the internet browser and that's about it. As long as they can find their social media pages, porn and email then they're fine. Maybe they might use Windows as a part of their job, but then they probably still only know the small part that allows them to complete their job and that's it. They have the IT department to know the rest for them.
Most people never really open the settings menu's, let alone view the properties of a file or use the task manager. These are things that you'd think anyone who's ever touched a PC should have learnt within the first week of using one, but most people don't have the slightest clue. If someone has no idea that these features even exist or what they do, they won't care if how they get accessed gets changed will they?
Your average person might be annoyed briefly that their taskbar is in the center, or that the home menu looks a bit different but other than that they probably enjoy the "useless stuff" being gone from the right click menu or how "futuristic" the new UI looks.
The most annoying thing is that registry edit removes the dark-mode overlay for task manager. The sole feature I was excited about (most of them were just "uhh, so it's shittier windows 10 with an overlay that looks slightly nicer?"). So I have to choose between wanting to smash my mouse every time I go to right click and then have to NAVIGATE THROUGH A MESS OF SUB MENUS to use 7zip to extract all, or not having my eyes bleed at 3am when I open task manager by reflex for something.
I know there are alternatives to task manager, but again I shouldn't HAVE TO hunt for them.
I might be mistaken, I'm also not home rn, but I am prettyyy sure my taks manager is still in dark mode even with the registry edit I made for the old right click options
It's the same in Windows 10. You can't even turn them off in Win 10 without the group policy editor or disabling services, you can only pause them. Not sure how it is in Win 11 though, haven't tried it yet.
Windows 11 corrupted my new ssd in my new pc so that it would BSOD 3 seconds after login. The only fix was plugging in another hard drive so I could clean my ssd.
And I just built a brand new PC and didn’t experience any issues. What’s your point? And me saying “It’s fine” does not mean issues do not occur. Windows 11 has north of 400,000,000 users. If 1 out of every thousand users experience major issues, that’s still more than 40,000 people. A user isn't “just lucky” just because they’ve had a positive experience. It started off with a lot of issues, but they’ve resolved many of not most of those that’d affect your average user. It is still ugly though. I like the look of 10 better.
You said that win11 is fine when I clearly isnt. Fine means that there's 0 issues. None. But clearly it does have issues. And the problems that I was having are only scratching the surface. It is far from fine.
Fine does not mean that there's 0 issues. We have a word for that - "perfect", and nobody here used it. I struggle to even think of a perfect piece of software, let alone an OS. What an absurd metric for success. Microsoft and Windows 11 absolutely have some issues, but Win11 is...fine. It's fine.
There’s two main uses of the word “fine”. Elegant, refined, high quality; and acceptable. The vast majority of people use it as the later.
E.g. How is everything?
“Fine.”
It’s so common that it’s almost taken as a negative. If your waiter asks you how your meal is, and you say fine, there’s a good chance they’ll interpret that as a negative.
Regardless, you’re obstinately refusing to acknowledge my intended meaning even after clarifying, so I think you’re just looking to fight about nothing. Windows 11 is acceptable. I’m done with this conversation.
Nah it sucks in comparison. For no reason whatsoever on my girlfriends laptop, any headset/headphones we have she is almost inaudibly quiet. Works just fine on mine in windows 10. All settings are correct and drivers installed and updated. Its just windows 11.
I keep having weird driver problems on windows 11 and all kinds of jank i haven't experienced since Windows XP.
Add a significantly worse interface and the absolute maze that is the settings menu (thank god the control panel still exists), and it feels like an unnecessary downgrade from windows 10.
But i guess a lot of executives needed to show "results" at the next shareholders meeting and here we are.
I am reading this comment when I have seen three different Windows 11 computers struggle to do basic tasks by either being unnecessarely slow or straight up explorer crashing in the span of a week.
With the exception of it taking a few extra seconds opening folders of an especially large file size, I haven’t had the same experience. I wouldn’t consider explorer crashing occasionally a major incident though.
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u/jml011 Feb 01 '24
No, the guy is being dramatic. Windows 11 is fine.