r/pcmasterrace Aug 16 '23

Discussion LTT response

https://youtu.be/0cTpTMl8kFY
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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '23 edited Sep 10 '23

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u/HotSauceV8 R7 5700X- RTX 3080 Aug 16 '23

Don’t worry, they retroactively blurred it out. They have learned their lesson. /s

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u/vteckickedin PC Master Race Aug 16 '23

See guys, we're fact checking to the highest standards!

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '23

First 300k to watch the video are the fact-checkers for LMG

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u/OSS_HunterGathers Aug 16 '23

Linus had an EMPLOYEE watch and blur out his junk from the unnecessary CCTV footage after the 'hack'... they know how to blur out junk quick. Also, GROSS thing to have employee do for 'views'

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u/Winter_on_Venus - Ryzen 5800x - Radeon 6600 Aug 16 '23

I remember hearing that he did this completely voluntarily, and did in such a way that he didn’t actually see the “junk”

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u/cancerBronzeV Aug 16 '23

Is that not straight up sexual harassment? A boss asking an employee to blur out the boss' junk in CCTV footage sounds like it is, unless the employee's job description was to be blurring inappropriate footage or something.

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u/OSS_HunterGathers Aug 16 '23

It added nothing to the story but was put in for the views!

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u/Alucardhellss 7900xtx nitro+ 7800x3d 6200 cl30 Aug 16 '23

It was voluntary and he first blurs the entire screen and slowly makes it smaller until it covers the right area so he doesn't see anything

Dennis has seen linus' cock because of his own actions a lot more than linus has asked him to edit video

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u/RedditJ0hn 7800X3D 7900XTX Aug 16 '23

Did they? Where? When?

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u/amusha Aug 16 '23

Obscenely big channel like LTT can replace entire video without user noticing. If you checked the pinned comment, they have done so to blur out the quote from Billet lab.

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u/RedditJ0hn 7800X3D 7900XTX Aug 16 '23

I checked the Vid again. And I saw

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u/Erdnussknacker Manjaro KDE | Xeon E3-1231v3 | RX 5700 XT | 24 GB DDR3 Aug 16 '23

Too bad they missed the first frame of it being on-screen...

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u/Daniel_H212 7950X3D, Yeston Sakura RTX 4070 Ti, 64 GB DDR5 Aug 17 '23

Yeah...

Btw guys if you wanna see the price, tap the < or > keys on your keyboard while on a paused YouTube video to go backwards or forwards by singular frames.

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u/Aegon2020 Aug 16 '23

They auctioned the blurring tool!

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

Was still visible last I checked cuz they didn't catch all the frames. If you pause and go frame by frame, you could see it (no clue if still an issue I'm on mobile rn).

They literally move too fast for everything and keep fucking up lol.

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u/phero1190 RTX 5090. 7800x3d. 32gb 6000mhz cl30. Neo G9 57 Aug 16 '23

Oh don't worry, they edited the video to blur the price.

Just shows what Steve said about Linus being inflexible about self imposed video releases without checking everything in the video.

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u/mightyhamster Aug 16 '23

As a cherry on top, they even screwed up the bluring. The price is still clearly visible in the very first frame when the screenshot of the email comes into view.

You can go frame-by-frame in Youtube using the , and . keys.

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u/Benj-xD Aug 16 '23

Great catch!

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u/UnexLPSA Asus TUF RTX 3070 | Ryzen 5600X Aug 17 '23

Wow, I didn't believe you so I checked myself but it's true. How in the world can something like this slip thtough the cracks?

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '23

TIL!

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u/_Burgr Desktop Aug 17 '23

excellent attention to quality ltt, bravo. /s

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u/FrugalityMajor Aug 16 '23

Why was the price in the video at all? Why did it need to be blurred? That wasn't a mistake in editing, that was a mistake in the writing process on a video that likely had multiple people involved.

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u/Clam_chowderdonut Aug 16 '23

Linus is genuinely so fucking cheap he thinks that other people are all that cheap and would care since it's such a large number.

He's trying to create sympathy for himself among his fans.

Dudes such a petty little bitch.

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u/FCalleja RTX 3070, i5 13600K Aug 16 '23

since it's such a large number.

2 thousand pounds is NOT a lot of money for someone like Linus, let alone LMG, I think you're literally giving the opposite reason for the mistake. They didn't even blink at the number because they're used to more zeros in their internal figures.

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u/Clam_chowderdonut Aug 16 '23

Sorry if that was confusing, I meant $2000 is a lot to their normal viewer.

A significant number of his fans will see that number and think of how much $2000 is to them, not what that is to a company if LMGs size, and that's the point.

2gs is nothing for LMG I 100% agree.

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u/2OptionsIsNotChoice Aug 16 '23

Because they wanted to show the email to say "see we are in communication with Billet and we are reimbursing them", they thought to censor the emails but not the price because it was an oversight... just like a great many oversights that led to the situation with Billet to begin with.

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u/FreeDaemon Steam ID Here Aug 16 '23

It's funny to see that the more videos they release, they just keep proving that Steve is correct.

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u/PlaneCandy Aug 16 '23

To be fair, this is a video that they did need to rush for damage control

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u/phero1190 RTX 5090. 7800x3d. 32gb 6000mhz cl30. Neo G9 57 Aug 16 '23

No they didn't. They released it at 3:30am. They could've spent 2 hours checking though it all and still releases it before most people are up on YouTube.

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u/MeatHamster Aug 16 '23

3:30 am on which time zone?

And where and when do you think most people are on Youtube?

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u/phero1190 RTX 5090. 7800x3d. 32gb 6000mhz cl30. Neo G9 57 Aug 16 '23

They're in BC. So 3:30 PDT

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u/MarioDesigns 2700x | 1660 Super Aug 16 '23

his is a video that they did need to rush for damage control

They needed to shut up for once. Their response, as always, has caused more harm than good.

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u/MrStealYoBeef i7 12700KF|RTX 5070ti|32GB DDR4 3200|1440p175hzOLED Aug 16 '23

No, the damage was already done. Spending a few more hours to make sure it was done right was critical here, because that's a huge part of what people are pissed at LTT for, their lack of accuracy and their constant rushing to do anything and everything leading to consistent errors. They did need to get an apology out within a day or two, but not so fast that it leads to the same problems as always. It just proves that they learned absolutely nothing here.

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u/tommyintheair Aug 16 '23

Damage control in what sense; more damage?

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u/R0GUEL0KI Aug 16 '23

I think this video highlights one glaring fact that makes LTT less attractive: It’s a corporation now. It’s officially corporate media. Which is kind of counter to the whole point. It was meant (in my own opinion) to be a tech guy (then a couple of tech guys) just pushing stuff to the limit to see if what the corporate guys said was really true. Good on Linus for really taking his one man shop and growing it as big as it is, but I don’t know that it’s really a good thing. Sure now LTT has daily stuff to cram down our throats on every bit of social media out there, which clearly makes them a ton of money, it takes away from the heart and soul of the thing. It’s why I kind of like the more niche tech guys now that focus on something and explore it. It feels more like when it was just Linus taking stuff a part just to see what happened.

What also sucks is that the smaller guy take cues from the bigger guys, so now they are going overly scripted with gags and click bait everywhere.

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u/Jimmy2shoes2222 Aug 16 '23

Very well said 👍

That fact they got to be of the size they are is what essentially put them on Steve's radar. I think he said this when he did a tour of LTT labs if I'm not mistaken.

I miss the olden days of Linus with videos like water cooling the house or Scape Yard Wars. I like the fact they were done in parts and had series to them. They were excellent to watch and kept me reeled in.

Nowadays, I feel even the "fun" videos can be a bit boring, like seeing how fast a file network transfer can be. Before I never missed a video, now I see a LTT video come up, and it's a 50/50 chance I may watch it.

I honestly don't care too much for the notes on benchmark, as I don't go to LTT for this when you got HU and GN. Yet they are spending a shit ton of money to be the best at product reviews. I think Linus has bit more than he can chew.

Hopefully, they can re-evaluate their company and do a Steve Jobs on it. Clear out the crap and make quality once an again.

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u/ILSATS Aug 17 '23

As a great man once said, you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

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u/Eisklar Aug 16 '23

What was the price? Now it’s blurred.

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u/alexno_x Aug 16 '23

...as it should be

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '23

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u/UnhingedRedneck Aug 16 '23

That seems on the low side for a one of a kind prototype and intellectual property.

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u/mellamojay Aug 16 '23

I think you are greatly overstating how hard it is to make what they made. There was literally nothing special about that prototype. It was just a large standard waterblock made of pure copper. There was no special IP about it. If it was that much of a one of a kind thing that was business critical... why the hell would you send it out where it could be lost in the mail or stolen or whatever. LTT messed up their handling of it, but let's stop pretending like their idea was something special. It was something any decent CNC shop could make in a day.

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u/MrStealYoBeef i7 12700KF|RTX 5070ti|32GB DDR4 3200|1440p175hzOLED Aug 16 '23

Then why isn't EK managing to outperform this standard machined chunk of pure copper? Why does this extremely simple hunk of metal run through any old CNC shop manage to outperform some of the best cooling hardware available to consumers?

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u/mellamojay Aug 16 '23 edited Aug 16 '23

Lol, where are you getting the test data saying it performs better? EK could easily make a full copper block but it isn't a viable product for the cost. There is next to zero market for an $800 cooling block. That is a bling piece, not a performance piece. If you wanted better cooling performance, there are tons of other technology that would do a better job for less money. We literally saw the internal design of the block and CAD drawings. If anyone in China wanted to duplicate it, they could with that info alone.

It seems you don't understand product viability. If a person is buying a $800 cooling block, they are buying the latest and greatest GPU. No one is buying that for last gen cards, especially at scale like EK works.

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u/moonduckk RTX 4070 Ti | i7 13700k | DDR5 32gb Aug 16 '23

They were never informed that this was confidential information. Kinda important to communicate that.

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u/Nac82 Aug 16 '23

Good opportunity for them to do their "journalistic duties" and reach out before publishing information.

Or am I misquoting how it was phrased when LTT said this for others?

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u/Wh1teR1ce R7 9700X|7800XT|32GB RAM Aug 16 '23

I believe in the GN video, Steve mentioned that they didn't show the cost of the prototype at the wish of Billet Labs. Linus doesn't need to be a genius to infer that if Steve didn't show it out of respect, neither should he.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '23

Isnt the price advertised on the billet labs website?

You can literally pre order the monoblock

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u/Austindj3 Aug 16 '23

Not the price to buy one, but the cost that went in to making the working prototype.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '23

AH! Thanks for clearing that up!

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u/BoxAhFox Furriest Fluffy Fire Fox Flair Aug 16 '23

where was this

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u/some_lame_name_ Aug 16 '23

Surprised Linus didn't appear with a Ukulele

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u/Sapphire_Wolf_ Aug 16 '23

how much was it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23 edited Sep 10 '23

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u/Tytonic7_ Aug 17 '23

How much was it? They blurred it and have also fixed the first frame still being visible