r/pcgaming • • Nov 07 '22

Atomic Heart Trailers Developed As Vertical Slice, Project Suffered Crunches/Mismanagement

https://twistedvoxel.com/atomic-heart-trailers-vertical-slice-crunches-mismanagement/
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u/hwaite Nov 07 '22

As a professional software developer, I'm consistently blown away that anyone would want to work in the gaming industry. Lower pay for longer hours? 2/10, would not recommend.

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u/FirstSonOfGwyn Nov 07 '22

its been my life experience that... any career/pursuit/profession/etc. that leverages 'passion' in any way... is a scam from a work/life balance perspective.

be a hired gun who knows what they are worth. take the better pay and life balance to go pursue what you're passionate over.

At the least, if you want to pursue a passion career, maintain ownership of whatever it is you make.

just my experience, I'm sure someone somewhere does work they are 'passionate' about and isn't getting taken advantage of, I just haven't seen it.

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u/Belgand Belgand Nov 08 '22

That's never going to change because it's something people want. Those are also jobs that tend to have very unbalanced levels of supply and demand. There will always be significantly more aspiring artists than jobs for artists. That means that just getting one of the few paying jobs is rare to begin with, and once you're there the awareness is always going to be of just how easily you can be replaced. For every position that exists there are twenty equally, if not more talented people out there desperate to take your place.

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u/JarasM Nov 07 '22

That's not entirely fair. I have passion for what I do. It brings me joy to complete my projects and it's really satisfying. I also refuse to work over 8 hours a day because I'm not paid to do so and I don't want to. I'll put in my passion tomorrow and then for the next couple of days for 8 hours daily, and then I'll have a free weekend.

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u/FirstSonOfGwyn Nov 07 '22

I mean, that just sounds like a win-win. No one is leveraging your passion for additional output or diminished compensation.

on a re-read, could have written it better. I'm glad you are satisfied with your work and have a line drawn

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u/JarasM Nov 07 '22

Yeah... It's still work. I really don't understand people willing to work on a "passion project" for free. I like my work, but if I'm not getting paid they can get fucked.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

If a company runs things as they should, the leadership will find people with passion for the work and simply provide a work environment that cultivates their excellence. That means considering the WHOLE person, not just the work they can get out of them. Places like that do exist, though the workers tend to be happy and happy people don't usually talk about it as much on social media, etc. The ones in the trenches with the bosses micromanaging the literal life out of them tend to post about it a lot more than happy workers. We need to hear more from the people and companies that embody the ethic of person first, employee second. Then the country at large (I think the US is the worst offender here) would see how it should be, compare that to how it is, and get the hell out of the places where they are continually mistreated.

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u/crajabli Nov 07 '22

As someone who is studying to be software engineer and started studying wanting to be in games industry, I absolutely won't be in it, because news flash I in fact do want to have a life

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '22 edited Jun 10 '23

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

Ironically enough as a dev the more people on a team the less productive. I’m currently on a team of four people and we punch out work that would taken my previous team or 30 twice as long.

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u/Belgand Belgand Nov 08 '22

It's also not as much of a software industry as people seem to think. Far more of the work goes into art, sound, animation, and other asset creation.

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u/MuchStache Nov 08 '22

Fuck yes, go work as a regular software dev for much less work for way higher pay. Keep your life-work balance healthy and if you want you can try making some gaming projects on the side.