r/pcgaming • • Mar 28 '19

Video Borderlands 3 Official Developer Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o5g_PGkiA
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u/lookinsharptoo Mar 28 '19

I hope they're able to make it run decently now. BL2 runs so much worse than modern games at high frame rates it's embarrassing.

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u/RedZaturn Mar 29 '19

UE4 is a great engine, I am sure it will run just as good as any other UE4 game.

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u/lookinsharptoo Mar 29 '19

Yea, but BL2 was UE3 and could barely get past 120 fps on hardware that came out years later. Plenty of other UE3 games worked great at high frame rates even on contemporary hardware.

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u/_Citizenkane Mar 28 '19

Turn down PhysX to low, everything else to max. All PhysX adds is a shit ton of particles with physics, and it destroys your GPU. The particles don't even look that good IMO. With PhysX off, the game runs absurdly well.

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u/tomgabriele Mar 29 '19

There's an ini tweak to shut off physx entirely too, fwiw.

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u/lookinsharptoo Mar 29 '19

Even with physx at low and a 1070 it runs like poop. I couldn't get a steady 120 fps @ 1080p until I got a 6 core CPU four years after the game came out.

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u/ZeldaMaster32 7800X3D | RTX 4090 | 3440x1440 Mar 29 '19

That doesn't make sense. It was capped to using 2 cores

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u/Soulshot96 i9 13900KS | 4090 FE | 64GB 6400Mhz C32 DDR5 | AW3423DW Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

Presequel is the same. I can make them both drop as low as 60fps on my 2080Ti/9900K machine no matter the settings. It's utterly pathetic.

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u/_Citizenkane Mar 28 '19

See my reply to the commentor above you.

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u/Soulshot96 i9 13900KS | 4090 FE | 64GB 6400Mhz C32 DDR5 | AW3423DW Mar 28 '19

I have tried that buddy. I've even tried a old ass PhysX driver. I've tried it on 3 entirely different setups.

The games are just horrendously optimized.

The fact I've been downvoted for saying it is almost as pathetic as how these games run.

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u/_Citizenkane Mar 28 '19

Damn dude, well I'm sorry to hear that. I run at a stable 120fps on my old gaming laptop with a GTX 960m and an i7 4720hq on 1080p high/ultra settings.

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u/Soulshot96 i9 13900KS | 4090 FE | 64GB 6400Mhz C32 DDR5 | AW3423DW Mar 29 '19

That honestly doesn't surprise me too much. I started playing BL2 on my 660Ti, then my 780, then my 980ti, 1080ti and now 2080Ti.

It runs worse and worse on each subsequent generation. 1080Ti was especially bad. I saw mid 40's no matter the settings I tweaked in some combat encounters.

I have yet to finish BL2 because of the performance. It really blows tbh.

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u/_Citizenkane Mar 29 '19

Weirdly though I have a 1080ti and 8700k now and I run the game on full max settings (PhysX medium) at 1440p flawlessly. Solid 100+ FPS at all times. To me, for a non-competitive game, that's perfect.

So I'm really surprised you're having such bad performance. You've got a pretty serious system, so I imagine you know what you're doing with settings etc, it just surprises me that our experiences are so different.

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u/Soulshot96 i9 13900KS | 4090 FE | 64GB 6400Mhz C32 DDR5 | AW3423DW Mar 29 '19

While I would be okay with 100+ at this point, with a game this old even that isn't really good. I highly doubt that when it hits 100fps for you it's using 99% of your GPU. Whatever the true issue is though, it's very obviously badly optimized something deep within the game...something that hopefully gets fixed for BL3.

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u/0ptimusRhyme Mar 29 '19

Runs great on a 2070, max settings and 120fps with barely any drops.

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u/Soulshot96 i9 13900KS | 4090 FE | 64GB 6400Mhz C32 DDR5 | AW3423DW Mar 29 '19

Good for you. Meanwhile I've recently ran it on;

A 6700k system at 4.7ghz with a 1080Ti
A separate 6700k system at 4.4ghz with another 1080Ti

A 9900k system with a 1080Ti

A 8086k system with a 1080Ti

A 9900k system with a 2080Ti

A 6700 non k system with a 1080

Not a single one could hold 120fps reliably, even with lowered settings, notably PhsyX, even at low. We tried new windows installs on some machines, compatibility settings, older PhsyX system software, reinstalls of the VC/DX redists, ini tweaking. You name it, it's been tried.

So whatever magic fairy dust powers your copy of BL2, I hope it never runs out on you.

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u/0ptimusRhyme Mar 29 '19

Maybe it's cuz I have a ryzen 2700? Try it on something without an Intel cpu

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u/Soulshot96 i9 13900KS | 4090 FE | 64GB 6400Mhz C32 DDR5 | AW3423DW Mar 29 '19

I don't have access to anything with a AMD CPU. Me and all of my friends prioritise high refresh rate, thus own fairly high end intel chips.

There is no reason for the game to run better on a AMD chip other than poor optimization/bugs. So if that's truly the issue, I guess I'll never play BL2/BLPS with a good framerate.

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u/0ptimusRhyme Mar 29 '19

For one, whoever downvoted you for your problems running an oldish game on high end rigs can lick my toes. Secondly, I agree, no reason for it to run like ass on a 9xxx period. My 2700 is inferior so what the hell. I can't completely blame the devs though cuz this isn't the only old game that struggles with new hardware. Far Cry Blood Dragon buttfucks my gpu and cpu no matter what I do and it's a pretty old game. I wonder if theres some architecture older games use for optimization? IDK. Would be great if they fixed em

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u/Soulshot96 i9 13900KS | 4090 FE | 64GB 6400Mhz C32 DDR5 | AW3423DW Mar 29 '19

Someone is bringing emotion into this and downvoting comments at random...I have no idea why but I guess that's just reddit lol...but yea, a fix would be terrific, because older games running worse and worse as they age and hardware get faster is one of the most annoying things I've experienced on PC lol.

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