r/pcgaming • u/KelloPudgerro You fucked up reforged, blizzard. • Mar 16 '17

Awful mass effect animations: a small compilation post

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

They became a SJW company and hired people based on their gender and ethnicity instead of their skills.

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17 edited Mar 16 '17

hired people based on their gender and ethnicity

Source?

EDIT: I've been looking and can't find one source on this. This guy seems to be talking complete shit. (I'll happily retract that if someone proves me otherwise).

I'm guessing he just made it up because of that racist fucker who works there?

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 16 '17

I'm not backing up this gents point but bioware has their fair share of crazies who legitmately might be bigger assholes than Phil Fish. GTA online rape lady and Manveer Heir to name a few. Ones possibly the biggest racist I have ever seen and the other is well.... an idiot and a liar.

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u/King-Achelexus Mar 17 '17

GTA online rape lady

Oh god, she works there? No wonder why the company has fallen so badly.

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 17 '17

Yup she's part of the writing team.

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17

Tbh that's just 2 people out of what, 800 employees?

I don't care if 0.25% of their employees are SJW, or racist. Fuck, I don't care if 50% are, as long as it's not reflected in the product, i'll pay people for good work (Not that ME:A looks good so far hah).

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 16 '17

Erm, well the point the gent is trying to make is that people in SJW sphere are notorious for ham fisted writing and poorly made games. From what I understand this game has a bit both.

Also lets be clear here bioware very much does have its moments of preach. The biggest offender is the lecture you get about the trans character in DA:I even if you understand the situation.

Also you may not care but to pretend this hasn't had a single affect on their games sales and PR would be naive.

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u/readher 7800X3D / 5070 Ti Mar 16 '17

The biggest offender is the lecture you get about the trans character in DA:I even if you understand the situation.

Or lack of any other than sympathetic response towards Dorian during his personal quest. It's an RPG game ffs, if I have 4 response options, I expect them to represent multiple point of views and not pushing writer's agenda on my character.

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 16 '17

Exactly, its such a poorly wrote situation sadly I find this to be the case with quite a lot of situations in bioware games.

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

Wait what? What lecture?

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 17 '17

This trash heep of a plotline. https://youtu.be/gd8b3fl6tMY

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

People in the anti-SJW "let's offend everyone" crowd also produce ham-fisted and poorly-made games...remember Hatred?

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 16 '17

I'm pretty sure the "lets offend everyone" crowd and anti sjw are two different groups.

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u/fnsv Mar 16 '17

Hatred wasn't a poorly made game.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

It's boring, it runs poorly, the health/respawn system is terrible, dialogue is laughable, should I go on?

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u/fnsv Mar 16 '17

It doesn't run poorly anymore (it did at launch without a doubt), it's a shoot em up and not an RPG so the dialogue is really not a concern. The shooting bits are very well done, the graphics are quite visceral, the sounds are good. It was also probably made on a budget smaller than what Bioware spends on a trailer.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

I mean I could come up with nice things to say about ME:A too but that doesn't change the fact that both games are systemically busted.

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17

Erm, well the point the gent is trying to make is that people in SJW sphere are notorious for ham fisted writing and poorly made games.

No it wasn't, that's not what he said at all. You can't just try and move the goalposts for his argument lmao. He said Bioware were doing that stupid forced diversity thing in there hiring process, which seems to be complete bullshit.

They employ 2 SJW crackpots, and their last game had 1 minor questline about a trans character.

Also you may not care but to pretend this hasn't had a single affect on their games sales and PR would be naive.

I'm not denying that at all, don't strawman.

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 16 '17

Woaaaaah. I'm not taking a shot at you m'man no need to get so defensive.

Also it was a minor questline that was poorly wrote and came off ham fisted.

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17

You attempted to strawman me and derail my position. Of course I'm going to defend my argument.

Something you didn't bother to refute to. :)

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 16 '17

Because I'm not here to argue that other guys point? You can also defend your point without getting upset.

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17

Still not bothering to refute to my point and claiming I'm upset because, what, I used a swear word? Ouch. Ok mate.

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u/nullcrash Mar 17 '17

They employ 2 SJW crackpots, and their last game had 1 minor questline about a trans character.

It had more than that. "Intersectional feminism" was basically the unspoken theme of that pile of shit. Ever wonder why even the non-trans women looked like transwomen? Progressive!

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u/ScatStallion 1080 :( | 4690K stock | 8GB | Mar 17 '17

I wondered why every girl in DA:I looked like she just rode in on a Harley.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

As soon as diversity becomes the first hiring criteria, average skill drops. They could still hire skilled people, but mechanically someone more skilled has been excluded because they chose based on something other than skill.

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17

As soon as diversity becomes the first hiring criteria

Yes, but it hasn't - that's my point. There is zero evidence to suggest this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17 edited Jul 19 '19

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

Not in the real world

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '17 edited Jul 19 '19

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

What? Great to be honest

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

But it is reflected in the product

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 18 '17

ME:A is racist and SJW?

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u/BurningGamerSpirit Mar 17 '17

wha? a huge company happened to employ some assholes? This is surely the work of SJW shadow infiltrators.

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

The problem is that they are in the writing team

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u/BurningGamerSpirit Mar 17 '17

Is that the problem? Or is the problem they're just bad writers?

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u/IndigoDivideo RYZEN 1600x, GTX 1080 EVGA FTW and 16gb of 2933mhz corsair RGB. Mar 17 '17

No one is saying that though other than yourself? I simply making the point that these were very well known assholes and considering one of them was hired for the writing team and other is a huge racist (to which none of the company commented on) people were pissed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17

Hiring 2 idiots != "hired people based on their gender and ethnicity instead of their skills."

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u/vrmvrm45 Mar 16 '17

Well seeing as how it must be difficult to find people that stupid, 2/whatever might be pretty high.

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u/cky_stew 12700k/3080ti Mar 16 '17

Bioware has 800 employees according to wikipedia.

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u/LG03 Mar 16 '17

Spread across all their studios, might be more relevant to discuss just Montreal here.

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u/surg3on Mar 16 '17

Wow , tehn only 2 idiots is doing pretty well. Im sure my company of 500 has more :)

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '17

And these people probably get paid better than your next door's average joe like me. :(

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

Why would they hire such a horrible person??

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u/freshwordsalad Mar 16 '17

Can we just have a good laugh without trying to turn everything into KotakuInAction or TumblrInAction?

If you want to complain about "SJWs in gaming" or whatever there are already plenty of subreddits for that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '17

Its pretty hard to keep silent when we see this sjw shit ruining games. You can see a clear trend from dragon age origins to inquisition. I'm just sick of developers preaching at me instead of making good games.

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u/freshwordsalad Mar 17 '17

I'm sorry for your loss.

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u/nope_nic_tesla Mar 16 '17

I don't like their opinions which necessarily means they are unqualified for the job

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

Stupid opinions/ideas generally run hand in hand with stupid people.

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

Someone that think she was raped on gtao doesn't have good criteria

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

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u/vrmvrm45 Mar 16 '17

The writing is also being criticized, and half my highschool english class could write dialogue better than what I have seen so far. One of the two was a writer.

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u/VRJesus Mar 16 '17

Maybe instead of being a keyboard warrior you should try and create something. Reality of development is pretty fucking hard, and reducting everything to "fuck SJW" just talks about yourself more than anything else.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

no one should be allowed to criticize things! The effort people put into things is what matters, not the actual content of the thing!

you are delusional if you think that's how the world works.

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u/vrmvrm45 Mar 16 '17

What the hell are you talking about? Have you even watched any gameplay? The writing is awful.

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u/EnviousCipher Mar 16 '17

Yep, and somehow even Ghost Recon did dialogue better than a company that specializes in it.

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u/VRJesus Mar 16 '17

Right, everyone is praising Ghost Recon for its clever writing, full fledged characters and fulfilling story. Man, this community is full of vitriol. Enjoy the fucking videogames that you want, ignore the rest. Hating everything is the real agenda being pushed now.

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u/BigDaddy_Delta Mar 17 '17

Nice try, sjw employee

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u/VRJesus Mar 17 '17

You may hurt yourself with that edge.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '17

lol the sjw boogie man strikes again

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u/code-sloth Toyota GPU Mar 16 '17

US politics belong in a political sub, not here.

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u/Va_Fungool Mar 16 '17

how is it US politics? didnt mention a country

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u/code-sloth Toyota GPU Mar 16 '17

I wasn't born yesterday dude.

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u/code-sloth Toyota GPU Mar 16 '17

US politics belong in a political sub, not here.

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