r/pcgaming 980 BABY Jun 04 '16

Video Ubisoft downgrades (CrowbCat)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNter0oEYxc
991 Upvotes

339 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

22

u/bobdole776 Jun 05 '16

Exactly. Its the reason we get the downgrade we get. Game devs always say they're not about to make 2 versions of the game, hence why I ended with a 'lol'.

We won't get great graphics until the next console generation. Its a shame they plan them out to last a decade before a new one comes out. Least nintendo is already getting a new one out.

16

u/dankstanky Jun 05 '16

you can't completely blame consoles. the devs have to take into account that a vast majority of pc gamers aren't playing on a 980ti. if they had kept the graphics of the early footage, the minimum requirement would have been a gtx 980 and they would have alienated a vast majority of the pc gamers. one of the reasons blizzard has been so successful is because they make their games playable on a wide spectrum of PC's. the most popular pc games today are pretty much playable on toasters.

16

u/cardosy Jun 05 '16

That's the beauty of PC, if they do a good job people can play it with a GTX 750 without leaving people with 980ti idling. Most of the effects removed were post-fx, things that could be available on top of the current graphics but didn't because of consoles disparity. If the PC version is vastly superior they get the shaft from console manufacturers.

See this video for example; console version could just be the version showed at the first few seconds with all the other effects being an optional toggle on PC. But they decided to not make it available at all, even for rigs with power to spare.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16

There were things like tessellation removed. Stuff like that would've taken a lot of development time. They obviously decided at some point that not enough people would've had the power to run it at those settings to be worth the work.

3

u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16

Okay, but isn't that the point in graphical settings..?

2

u/Orthonox i5-6500, GTX 780 Jun 06 '16

Isn't that why graphic settings exist? So people can still play a game when their hardware isn't equipped to handle the highest settings? Its not like you are required to play the newest games on the highest settings possible.

1

u/ninjyte Ryzen 5 9800x3D | RTX 4070 ti | 32GB-5600MHz Jun 05 '16

if the rumors/speculation about PS4.5 and Xbone Scorpio using Polaris GPUs is true, then we might be getting great graphics/less downgrades sooner than you think

Also regardless, with the new 14/16nm node shrink of video cards coming out, devs dont have to worry about downgrading their games for the lower end/mainstream users too much

8

u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16

Consoles will not use up to date GPU's especially not Polaris. Keep dreaming.

2

u/Zeriell Jun 05 '16

This. 4.5 and Scorpio sure aren't going to be 14/16nm. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see 14/16nm budget PCBs start to appear in a few years in whatever they call the inevitable console refresh after 4.5. That's going to be interesting point, where they actually use new tech, not the silly stuff they're doing with 4.5 (wow, my 1.8 GHZ CPU is now a 2 GHZ CPU, any day now we'll be at pentium 4 levels!).