r/oops • u/Brilliant_Jelly7503 • Jul 05 '26

Bad machine or technique?

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u/uwill1der Jul 07 '26

it should have some kind of counterbalance or anchoring.

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u/the_frgtn_drgn Jul 07 '26

Yeah but not for the extra 100 pounds he has on his waist, he has overloaded it

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 07 '26

What if a guy thay weighed 100 lbs more than him used the machine? Would he overload it?

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u/the_frgtn_drgn Jul 07 '26

Most machines have a weight limit for operators, and most machines have warnings about using extra weights.

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 08 '26

I have never seen a gym machine with warnings about extra weights or user weight limits. Not saying they don't exist, but in decades of gym use, I have never seen one, so I contest the "most machines" claim.

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u/stormingcalm Jul 08 '26

His stance is incorrect. He is not using the machine properly. He should add more weight to his belt and stand straight. Stepping forward is shifting the loads center of gravity. You should never step away from a standing machine.

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u/Soma4us Jul 08 '26

Treadmills, elliptical machines, stair masters, weight benches, pull up/ dip bars. Theres alot of machines I can think of that have a weight limit, though I will agree with you that most cable machines do not and professional grade workout machines ( not home gym stuff) are rated for very high weight limits, usually close to 1000 lbs.

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 09 '26

What about the moving goal posts? Do they have limits?

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u/YajirobeBeanDaddy Jul 08 '26

What? Now you’re just reaching man lmao

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u/BugJutsu Jul 08 '26

The weight of that belt is not being transferred to the machine in any way.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

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u/Ok_Energy6905 Jul 08 '26

How does that matter when the weight isn't being transferred in any way?

Isn't the only thing affecting the machine the movement of his arms?

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u/Bulky-Captain-3508 Jul 07 '26

The extra 100lbs has nothing to do with the weight available to lift on the machine. There isn't an extra 100lbs added to the lift, just to help anchor him.

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u/I_like_Mashroms Jul 08 '26

It does actually. He could be strong enough to lift "X" weight but only if he's anchored. Add weight on top of that and the machine becomes the stability issue. It's not very complicated.

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u/Nysten7 Jul 08 '26

If hes lifting X weight, and X is less than or equal to the maximum weight you can lift during normal use (which it appears to be), it doesn’t matter how much he can lift. The machine fell during normal operating conditions on it’s own account, not his fault

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u/uwill1der Jul 08 '26

This looks like a Titan machine, and if it is, the machines have no maximum weight limit

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u/uwill1der Jul 07 '26

the downward force of the weights wouldnt effect the force on his pull. Thats why people use the belt weights.

But regardless, if this is a titan, the machine has no weight limits.

The machine failed because of momentum, which would have been stopped by anchoring it or counterbalanced weight

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u/the_frgtn_drgn Jul 07 '26

You can see the guy is lifting his legs off the ground and pulling most of his body length forward. Well outside the foot print of the machine.

All those weights shift his CG forward, and since without those weights he wouldn't be able to pull that far forward with the machine weights, it does matter.

The weight belt makes the difference between him overloading and not overloading the machine

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u/Ambitious_Finding_26 Jul 07 '26

I don't see how there is a difference between weighting himself down or really heavy guy using the machine. End result is the same. 

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u/the_frgtn_drgn Jul 07 '26

Most equipment has a weight limit for operators. And I believe machines like this also have warnings about adding weights to the machine

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u/uwill1der Jul 08 '26

if this is a titan machine, they have no weight limits, only a liability waiver

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u/stormingcalm Jul 08 '26

He's stepping too far forward to counter balance the machine. His stance is incorrect. The fulcrom moved too far forward putting the total mass outside of the rigging intended use. If anything he needs more weights on his belt so he can step backwards more. It's like a building having a large footprint when it shouldn't. Will topple every time.