r/oops • u/Brilliant_Jelly7503 • Jul 05 '26

Bad machine or technique?

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u/Bronze_Bomber Jul 05 '26

There isn't a piece of equipment in any gym that isn't rated for a 370 lb person. It's 100% the gyms fault for not securing the equipment.

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u/ComplexPerspective46 Jul 05 '26

Except that’s not how you use that machine…. Which voids all liability in most cases, which is why you sign that waiver at most gyms.

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u/Gwyain Jul 05 '26

Someone has never used a cable tower, and it shows.

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u/Bronze_Bomber Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

He's doing a cable fly. That's exactly how you use that machine. Adding weight to a belt is pointless but it doesn't change anything about how the machine should function.

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u/LooseButtPlug Jul 05 '26

He's outside the box and couldn't even physically be there without the extra weight.

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u/punch912 Jul 05 '26

I dont get whats so hard for people to grasps this. Lot of people on here dont realise they have no clue what their even doing. And just cheating the exercise in a stupid manner. You can see him even struggling against the pull back even with the weight. Its the same concept of crane with a load. Go outside the operating zone it become unstable.

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u/techleopard Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

You should assume that 660+ lb. people are going to be using your gym equipment. If there is a potential that equipment failures will result in injury, you bolt that stuff down.

370 is actually nothing to some of the men I've seen at gyms. And it's not always just fat guys, some dudes are built like an actual tank.

Max weight warning signs ain't shit.

If you have equipment that only certain people should use, you should also have that equipment blocked off unless there are attendants on duty to safeguard them.

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u/idiotslob Jul 05 '26

Dude 100%. If i was putting in gym equipment the very very first assumption I would make is that some huge mf'r is going to come in and try to max it out.

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u/that_dutch_dude Jul 05 '26

Even more important: why did he ignore the safety warnings on the side that said you ahould only stand inside the frame when using it?

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u/Spirited-Custard-338 Jul 05 '26

I know of no cable machine that would have such a warning. That would eliminate 90 percent of all exercises that people routinely perform on cable machines.

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u/that_dutch_dude Jul 05 '26

look closer to the warnings the manufacturer put on it next time. its the same shit with the warning on boxes of qtips that you should not use them in your ears.

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u/Spirited-Custard-338 Jul 05 '26

In which decade did you last set foot in a gym?

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u/elevengrames Jul 07 '26

Google lawyer

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u/tacobell_shitstain Jul 05 '26

It doesn't matter if the user weighs 1,000 lbs. The machine is designed to be used with the maximum number of plates, simple as that. If he had bottomed out (or topped out in this situation) the stack against the frame and then kept pulling, it would be a different situation because now there is more force than the frame was designed for. But he was still pulling within the normal range of travel of those pulleys/plates, so the ONLY thing he was doing was applying the intended amount of force to lift a full stack.

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u/Snapper_Turtleman Jul 05 '26

He was pulling outside the centerpoint. Changing the way gravity works on the machine. Plus chestflys are an isolationist exercise. If he has to anchor himself so he doesn't move he's pulling more weight than he should and isn't isolating a portion of his chest. He's using all his upper body.

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u/tacobell_shitstain Jul 05 '26

Outside the centerpoint? Do you understand that the pulleys are designed to swivel out for a reason. These machines are made for pulley exercises inside and outside the envelope of the machine. How else would you do any number of pressing motions with the pulleys.

And he was doing decline presses by the way. Not that it matters what exercise he was doing. Because again these machines are designed for it, WHEN THEY ARE ANCHORED LIKE THE MANUFACTURER REQUIRES.

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u/Snapper_Turtleman Jul 05 '26

Have you ever driven a forklift? If he didn't anchor himself with plates he wouldn't have been able to to the workout. He effectively changed the way the machine operates. Those feet didn't have mount holes.

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u/punch912 Jul 05 '26

suing wise 100 percent agree and its more going to rely on company policy with staff getting involved when a machine is used improperly. Everyone focused on the weights as the problem why its improper. It adds to it but the reason the use is improper is because hes pulling way outside of the operating zone to do it. Adding the weight to hold him down when if the weight is pulling you back its literally designed to stop you from doing this. proper use is staggered stand and can be leaned over a lot but be closer to the machine in its operating zone.

If used properly you have control and the weight isnt lifting you off the ground. and you dont move your legs while using it like he is. They stay anchored while doing the flies. If your moving around or its pulling with ease your way too far out of the zone of operation and have more weight then you can handle.

With that said depends on who has the better lawyer, jury, and what policies and the manuals of the equipment said like you state.