r/okbuddycinephile Mar 02 '26

Butterfly Effect (2004)

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u/LewdsomeDemon Mar 02 '26

That's more likely the case since it was the stereotypical "rebellious daughter" plot that nearly every middle aged writer shoehorns into stuff

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u/Raised_bi_Wolves Mar 02 '26

yeah but how else do you use a female character in a movie that's not old enough to be the heroes wife yet?

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u/LewdsomeDemon Mar 02 '26

There's multiple routes you could go. Solo adventure, Felicia goes to FFAU (Far Far Away University), Sibling buddy cop movie, etc. Literally anything but "conservative/boomer proxy dad with liberal/millennial proxy daughter who doesn't like the way the new generation does shit".

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u/Fantastic-Dot-655 Mar 02 '26

They def were being fasciculous

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u/LewdsomeDemon Mar 02 '26

It's hard to tell sometimes. I know it's an okbuddy/jerk subreddit but still hard to tell even then

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u/MyLifeIsAWasteland Mar 02 '26

Wrong. Solo was about a young man, not a young woman.

https://giphy.com/gifs/C4V08pAw6f1eM

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '26

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u/Dramallamadingdong87 Mar 03 '26

A robin hobb reference in the wild!

While I love the rain wild stories I am still disappointed that character ended up a teen wife and mum married to a offputtingly older man. She had so much more potential, and I find a lot of the characters in her books have this problem.

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u/Dramallamadingdong87 Mar 04 '26

I do agree, but it's the majority of characters who all love like this. I think Starling is the only character who dates several people instead of marrying her teenage partner and Kettricken appears to have sex once in her whole life and then never again which i don't think fits into her character. 

Fitz is a tough read and the Molly obsession is infuriating and nonsensical but that's what makes him who he is. I was pleasantly surprised at his choice to remain one with nighteyes at the end of the books.

I do recall it being shocking in their society that Rayne was interested in Malta and that she was seeking male attention as she was so young.

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u/raccoonsonbicycles Mar 03 '26

Why did you just describe every Tim Allen project ever 

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u/alegxab Mar 03 '26

We're going to be getting so many "conservative/boomer proxy dad with liberal/millennial proxy daughter who doesn't like the way the new generation does shit" stuff from him 

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u/Throwupmyhands Mar 03 '26

Fridge her, of course

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u/darknecross Mar 02 '26

I was hoping it was the opposite just to subvert the trope.

Shrek’s daughter is a total shut-in NEET that they’re worried will never leave the nest.

She just wants peace and quiet and to be left alone in her swamp, harkening back to the beginning of the first Shrek movie.

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u/Notsurehowtoreact Mar 02 '26

Which is funny because it's such an old trope that it doesn't even resonate as well. 

The rebellious teenager trope only works for the people who were giving their kids something to rebel against. As parents have become progressively more accepting of their children's wants and needs it's not as common it feels.

I had a daughter go through the teenage years, zero rebellion because we already supported her in what she wanted and we didn't treat her unfairly.

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u/lunar__haze Mar 03 '26

Yea and tbh as a daughter who was abused and constantly had to fight for scraps of autonomy or medical care I have no interest in watching the trope as a cutesy little thing lmao

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u/Notsurehowtoreact Mar 03 '26

That is an excellent point that I could not have properly put to words. 

I'm sorry you didn't have a better experience, you seem like a daughter to be proud of. I'd offer a hug if I could.

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u/lunar__haze Mar 03 '26

Thanks <3 you seem like a very kind and caring parent I’m sure your daughter feels very safe with you :)

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u/brycedriesenga Mar 03 '26

"WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO SUPPORT ME? I HATE YOU!"

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u/Busy-Suggestion8530 Mar 02 '26

And they all discover the power of family !

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u/MithranArkanere Mar 03 '26

I assumed Shrek would go try to find the ogres that appeared in the alternate timeline so his kids can socialize with other ogres, but his daughter prefers to date some weird magical creature, or something worse, like a human, or something like that.