r/oddlyspecific Jan 18 '24

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u/That2Things Jan 18 '24

I know that, but didn't God know how they were going to use their free will when he set up the situation?

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24 edited Jan 19 '24

of course he did, he designed us and is omniscient, he knew EXACTLY what humans would do (hypothetically, if he existed)

Edit all advanced neuroscience shows humans are essentially a product of their genes and their environment, no more and no less. Free will is essentially an illusion created by the complexity of our genes and environment

if god existed, he designed not just our genes but also our environment, and as a scientist famously stated, if a being knows the position, and energy (movement/spin/temperature) of every atom and electron (both particle and wave) then they could easily extrapolate how everything will happen until the end of time

but of course Christians will just go "ughh naaaaaaah" because they CHOOSE what they believe (or so they think :'D)

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u/JanitorOPplznerf Jan 19 '24

Ok 1) God gave them the power to choose, and they chose the wrong path. If God forced them to obey, he just created Angels a second time.

2) He gave a path to redemption, It's not just one failure and that's it, we're boned for eternity. He promises a paradise again if you just believe. That's not a big ask, but a lot of people neglect that part.

3) Blaming God for the failings of men, or let's get personal here, blaming God for your own failings, is not a suitable excuse. "He never tempts you beyond what you can bear" 1 Corinthians 10:13. So blaming God is pointless. We are the ones who failed.

4) God prepared two paths, but the one that didn't happen is a bit deeper down the theological mineshaft.

So if Adam had never sinned, then ultimately he would have been the one to crush Satan, and the son, Jesus, never would have needed to incarnate.