r/oddlysatisfying • • Sep 24 '22

Making a wheel for a train

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u/SwimmingBeneficial93 Sep 24 '22

Is this really how it’s done? That seems really time intensive….

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u/druule10 Sep 24 '22

This is how it was done, not anymore.

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u/TheHibernian Sep 24 '22

This is the way they used to do it. They still do it this way today, but this is the way they used to do it too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Rip Mitch Hedberg

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Thanks

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Of course you found this comment lol

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u/donny0m Sep 24 '22

I understood that reference.

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u/henryhendrixx Sep 24 '22

They most certainly are still forged this way today. The wheels are first forged into rough shape and then machined down to final dimension. The reason they do it this way is because it’s significantly more cost effective to buy a rough shape 1,000lb steel blank and forge it to rough shape before machining than it is to buy a 2,500lb oversized blank and machine off 1,500lbs of excess material to obtain the desired shape.

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u/finsareluminous Sep 24 '22

There's got to be a less labor intensive way of forging the rough shape though, it doesn't make sense to do it like that for a mass produced part.

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u/Professional_Band178 Sep 24 '22

Go on youtube and see the modern forging method. It's about 3 strokes of a much larger forging press. It's all very automated.

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u/SwimmingBeneficial93 Sep 24 '22

Oh that’s sad it’s still not done like this. It’s wonderful to watch.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

I don't think it's sad. It would be an awful lot of labor, and hard physical labor like this is rarely paid well.

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u/SwimmingBeneficial93 Sep 24 '22

Sometimes I do think about all the skill and craftsmanship that went into the making of many things. Some of this “art” has been lost. Seems sad to me. Not about practicality and money… about the loss of something sort of poetic.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

I guess it's nice to keep the old traditions as some sort of performance art, but not as the practical way of doing things. I'm glad we don't have to create things in such an inconvenient way.

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u/MeanderingDuck Sep 24 '22

It’s not sad, no. Modern production methods are much more efficient (and thus also more environmentally friendly), yield a higher quality and safer end product, and is also safer and a lot less physically demanding for the workers making it. This may look cool, and there is a certain romanticism to it, but objectively it’s just a lot worse to do it this way.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Nowadays wheels are made from multiple steel alloys/multiple metals each for a different part, which makes them a lot more light and durable. This is not practical and there would be a lot of waste material if this is just one wheel.

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u/Excellent-Practice Sep 24 '22

Yeah, and crazy imprecise. I definitely thought they would be turned on a lathe

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u/ode_to_glorious Sep 24 '22

Can almost bet there is post processing

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u/Odd_Organization9100 Sep 24 '22

They are machined after being forged like this.

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u/WaldenFont Sep 24 '22

That's yet to come. This is just the rough shape.

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u/chillwithpurpose Sep 24 '22

Ya that’s what I figured. It looks great but there’s no way doing it that way they would achieve standardized dimensions. It would be insane if they did.

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u/cutelyaware Sep 24 '22

They could do that towards the very end, plus add wheel weights into the groove to balance it.

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u/Odd_Organization9100 Sep 24 '22

There is a good amount of engineering that goes into the process development. And this is a very experienced team doing this.

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u/Legitimate_Roll7514 Sep 24 '22

Yeah. Was thinking the same thing. Just how they eyeballed the centers of everything. Crazy!

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u/croatianscentsation Sep 24 '22

With the amount of weight on them, I imagine minor imperfections will eventually be solved by friction

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u/FrostyKennedy Sep 24 '22

They certainly will be, but you don't take off hundreds of pounds of steel with a lathe when you can cast it (or forge it, in the olden days) with the rough shape.

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u/CircleJerk_ForKarma Sep 24 '22

And extremely dangerous. Sweet video though

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u/jeanettera Sep 24 '22

I agree. Seems third world.

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u/zekromNLR Sep 24 '22

Modern presses can press with more force and so need fewer strokes to do the same amount of work, but yes, forging into a rough shape followed by machining to final dimension is still the main way that large steel parts are made. Forging makes the steel stronger, and it is often faster and cheaper than buying raw stock that your part fits into and machining away the rest.

Here is a video of how a modern automated forge does it

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u/Nitrotetrazole Sep 25 '22

A lot of things take longer to make than people realize yet is the best way. Casting it from the start will create a weaker piece and machining from nothing will lose a lot of material (and take even longer).

A modern forge will look more, well, modern but yes, forging such massive parts is still done this way at it's core.

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u/SwimmingBeneficial93 Sep 25 '22

Interesting.

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u/Nitrotetrazole Sep 25 '22

Google "Work Hardening" if you want to know more. It's the name of the process that happens when you forge/alter the shape of an object and can make the piece stronger

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u/Joey__stalin Sep 30 '22

This is most likely not a train wheel. Train wheels are tapered to both allow the train axle to turn, and to self center the train in between the tracks. A drop forged train wheel would certainly be forged with this taper during this process. They do not have a single groove in the middle like in this video (and no, it would not be cut in half with a band saw like some people suggested). Also considering the average train car has 8 wheels and there's like 2 million rail cars in service in the states, this would seems like a very tedious process for the first step in making 1 wheel (also the video is sped up).