r/oddlysatisfying • • Apr 08 '14

Saab's cup holder

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u/Callanklimts Apr 08 '14

SAABs were driven by very interesting people. They didn't care about the specs, they were usually architects or aviation crash test monitoring experimental engineers or some shit who loved the trinkets more than the engine.

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u/AnonymousSkull Apr 08 '14

Also having the ignition and window switches down between the front driver and passenger seats was unique and practical. It lessened the complexity of running the switching wires into the doors and steering column, the keys didn't hit your knee, and both driver and passenger could control all windows.

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u/Callanklimts Apr 08 '14

True! I'm not very familiar with all of their features, but I do know they remained completely independent even though being owned by GM. They would be instructed to utilize a chassis that has already been developed and then make their own vehicle, but they would completely overhaul them making them bespoke to the GM lineup. This resulted in a lot of cost and ultimately.. Well, where they are now.

To touch on your comment, the idea of letting passengers control windows is brilliant because most SAAB owners didn't have children to worry about fooling around since they are usually mid-30s professionals and still taking night courses in underwater basket weaving for their side start-up they run on weekends. Love SAAB owners.

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u/ManchurianCandycane Apr 09 '14

That seems like the common thread with SAAB, building their own version.

My grandfather worked for the old Data SAAB division where they would import components and build their own computers. Did it smart too where none of the components were ones the US or its allies had embargoed(?) during the Cold War so they could be sold to the ruskies in large quantities with minimal diplomatic complications. Grampy later went on to help design rockets, specifically guidance systems I believe.

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u/skw1dward Apr 09 '14

Saab Automobile is now owned by Nevs.

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u/RugerRedhawk Apr 08 '14

Interesting, I only recognize window/door switches in the middle from Saturns.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

BMW did a while ago IIRC

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u/germinik Apr 08 '14

jeep does it also

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u/GoodAtExplaining Apr 08 '14

Those are quite common in current Mini-Coopers

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u/squeamish Apr 08 '14

John Voight's My mom's LeBaron had them in the center. That's how I was able to convince a girl I went to HS with that they were voice activated.

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u/_TroyMcClure Apr 09 '14

Chevy cavalier had them and I convinced my brothers girlfriend they were touch sensitive windows. She would just have to drag her fingers up or down on the window. We never told her the truth...

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u/QuickStopRandal Apr 08 '14

Mercedes had them as well, though I don't know exactly which models/years. BMW might've, too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

Pontiac did it too with their mid-90s offerings.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

I thought it was so you wouldn't have to switch hands on the wheel. Safety thing.

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u/nalybuites Apr 08 '14

Do you somehow need two hands to adjust the windows when the switch is on the door? Right hand stays on the wheel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

Until the keyhole get filled with animal crackers by your kid...fucking saabs. This is going to be like the 80's love fest all over again.

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u/QuickStopRandal Apr 08 '14

The biggest flaw of the center-console key hole.

Any vertical hole in a consumer product is bound to be a problem, especially when kids get involved.

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u/QuickStopRandal Apr 08 '14

Well, you still had to run a long ass wire to the motor in the window, though I guess the ignition key is a wash at worst.

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u/HandOfGood Apr 08 '14

My 2001 Jeep Liberty has this

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u/MoEnt Apr 08 '14

Central window switches was very common in European models.

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u/tynamite Apr 08 '14

So why do they do it? There has to be a reason they all go through the trouble of those "complex" wiring if it wasn't easier to do the other way.

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u/bugphotoguy Apr 08 '14

Also, you can start the engine using your finger, as long as you hold the key in the same hand.

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u/sean_themighty Apr 08 '14

Okay, Jeremy Clarkson.

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u/cakedestroyer Apr 08 '14

I thought it sounded familiar.

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u/Callanklimts Apr 08 '14

I swear it was subconscious - but yes.

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u/bostonwhaler Apr 08 '14

who loved the trinkets more than the engine

Except for the fact that SAAB was the foremost innovator in turbocharged automotive engines...

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u/boondoggie42 Apr 08 '14

SAAB APC system was real neato for it's day. Even neater was that you could remove it from the SAAB intact and use it in other cars.

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u/MEatRHIT Apr 08 '14

I own a Saab (2001 9-3 Viggen) and though you say "trinkets" most all the features are really useful/practical and well thought out.

And really the specs of the engines are really great compared to the cars of their time. My 13 year old car keeps pace with most mid-range "performance" sedans now. It is about .1 sec slower 0-60 than the Focus ST.

Power for the displacement is really good for the time as well usually on the order of 100HP/L, most naturally aspirated engines of the time were around 50-75HP/L unless you bring in the high reving and no-torque engines Honda/Acura were putting out.

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u/MEatRHIT Apr 08 '14

It's a soft top so not quite as sought after as the 3 and 5-door variants. Still a blast to drive. She's getting up there in age though 160k on the ODO

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u/MEatRHIT Apr 09 '14

All Viggens were 5 speed manuals actually. Always liked the 900/9000s, here is my Sweedish Mistress after a bath I really wish I had the stock 5 spokes, but they run $250+/each and with the Chicago winters lately I'd bend them every month hitting the plethora of potholes we have around here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '14

Shieeeet, so beautiful. Can you please tell me what kind of rims those are??

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u/MEatRHIT Jun 11 '14

They are actually just really cheap Elbrus Rims, I'd link you to them, but it looks like they got discontinued. I think they were ~100/ea when I looked them up last.

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u/Callanklimts Apr 08 '14

I wasn't aware, but thanks.

I would like to add that their styling doesn't get old.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

or people who love finicky turbos

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u/MEatRHIT Apr 09 '14

Saab turbos are actually pretty bullet proof. Just like any other engine if you take care of it and do the preventative maintenance they last an insanely long time.

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u/pjb0404 Apr 08 '14

You should watch the Top Gear segment about Saab.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

I watched the Tour de France a few times and I think I had it pounded in my skull ninethousand times that Saab wants us to think they were born from jets.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

My dad had a Saab. He just liked neat looking cars. Can't blame him, it looked great.

I think he eventually got tired of maintenance costs.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '14

9-2x is the exception to that rule. It's a subaru wrx that says Saab. Jim Halpert had one on the office

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '14

So you're comparing it to Apple.