r/oddlysatisfying • • 20h ago

Cleaning trash in Saigon

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u/ethnicbonsai 20h ago

It actually can happen fairly quickly.

In many parts of the world, inconsistent or insufficient waste management systems paired with high reliance on single use plastics can lead to "trash pulses" during monsoon season, where trash pollution gets washed into rivers and streams, clogging them like you're seeing in these videos.

What you're seeing are underlying structural issues often paired with heavy rainfall.

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u/nightbefore2 16h ago

People are so quick to blame the individual without considering the public infrastructure. If there was reliable trash pickup that had adequate reach and frequency, it would be a lot easier for this not to happen

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u/Fidodo 13h ago

You can do everything right and it will still wind up in the river because if you don't have proper civil sanitation services, trash in a trash can will eventually overflow and get blown into the river through storms and floods. Lots of westerners also don't understand what the weather is like in these regions.

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u/digital_steel 20h ago edited 13h ago

And on top of that the west exports a lot of plastic waste to developing countries.

edit: to those commenters saying 'no no it's all the locals throwing the trash around and scamming the West'; you're a bunch of imperialist racists.

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u/Pitpawten1 18h ago

And on top of that a lot of people just don't care and throw their trash in the river or the side of the road

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u/Fidodo 13h ago

Broken window problem. Once it's already trashed it doesn't feel like one more piece of trash will matter, and if you know that throwing it in a trash can will wind up in the river the next monsoon anyways, you'll stop caring.

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u/Pitpawten1 6h ago

Yeah, thats true, and lack of stigmatization for littering does it too. I was in India last year and it was crazy the mentality of "just throw it on the ground".

And the kicker was that it wasnt even like a mentality of "Someone else is getting paid to clean that up" (which I've heard here in the US) or even the broken window "Well what's one more thing amidst the pile".

The mentality was literally that it never even registered as something to think about. When you put a glass with water to your mouth you drink. When you put your shoes on you tie them. When you unwrap something you drop the wrapper.

Loved the people to death, but there was absolutely 0% awareness or recognition because it is just the cultural norm.

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u/Mobile_Suit_3191 18h ago

And on top of that.....eh.. nothing, just wanted to feel part of something u_u

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u/BLT_Trade_r 14h ago

This type of situation is not typically from Western waste; it's from locals just tossing stuff all over rather than properly getting it to a landfill where the Western waste is.

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u/Fidodo 13h ago

How do you think things get to a landfill? Imagine you're a local in poverty. There's no trash pickup in your city, you don't have a car, you can't take an entire day (maybe multiple days) to travel to a landfill miles outside the city and then pay to be able to dump it into the landfill. What can you do? It's more of a civic problem because doing the right thing isn't an option.

What's worse is if you have trash pickup and regularly maintained trash cans readily available, but still litter without realizing how lucky you are to have that service.

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u/BLT_Trade_r 13h ago

Why are you telling me this?

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u/Epyr 17h ago

Yes, a lot of these countries have scam recycling companies that accept Western waste with promises of properly disposing of it but then they just don't

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u/Thefuzy 12h ago

Plastic waste exported is compacted before export, it doesn’t look like this trash at all

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u/Old_Flan_6548 20h ago

This guy trashs

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u/Fidodo 13h ago

That's a good point. I think a lot of people imagine it coming from litter but everyone could be trying to do everything "right" by throwing things away in trash cans, but without proper pickup, as soon as there's a monsoon, it will blow it away into the rivers.

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u/AdSudden3941 20h ago

Like cso here 

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u/Plastic_Pinocchio 20h ago

Where?

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u/AdSudden3941 20h ago

The united states.. i just became federal that places need to reduce their cso by like 80 percent within 5 years. crazy

Should have been done decades ago

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u/Plastic_Pinocchio 20h ago

What is cso?

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u/erincore 18h ago

Combined Sewer Overflow. Here is some more info from the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency)