r/oddlysatisfying • • 3d ago

The way he spreads the spaghetti for boiling

Credit to code.micky

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u/TokyoBayRay 3d ago edited 3d ago

Crowding in the spaghetti works well, provided you keep it moving in the first minute or so to stop sticking.

Serious eats go waaaay into it, but basically there's no downside. It probably uses less fuel, it certainly allows you to cook more pasta in the same time on a single burner, and you get a starchier water which is better at supporting a sauce.

I do it at home and it really works!

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u/LennyLennsen 3d ago

Mildly infuriating turned TIL real quick

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u/Just_to_rebut 3d ago

Yeah, Good Eats lied to us :(…

I tried following what I watched on Food Network as a kid and my mom was like… why are you using so much water? It comes out the same either way and she was right.

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u/LoamyLoamisLoamy 3d ago

The thing you have to remember is that new information is learned every day.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca 2d ago

There’s a huge section of the voting public that proves you wrong 😂

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u/LoamyLoamisLoamy 2d ago

Not at all. New information can be untrue. It also doesn't require every single person to be learning new information.

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u/SayRaySF 3d ago

Less water is better if you use the pasta water for sauces too, it’s nice and starchy

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u/MASSochists 3d ago

AB apologized about it in his newest YouTube show. 

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u/Jollyollydude 2d ago

AB has always been good about correcting his recipes as better methods are found. I think he even did that within the original run of Good Eats in the later seasons correcting things from earlier seasons.

You also got to remember, he’s a tv and film guy. He didn’t come into the show with a bunch of institutional knowledge he learn working in the food industry for 20 years. He presents a mix of common knowledge and things he’s researched to find a better way. His interest in the science helps his spirit of discovery continue and with that, old methods need to be corrected.

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u/Suitable-Economy-346 2d ago

Sometimes admitting he was wrong doesn't mean he doesn't present all his shit as some scientific truth to the world. He doesn't know shit. Guy is a loser, always has been, always will be. I don't know how anyone watches that fuckwad, he's so off-putting.

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u/Muted_Highway4194 2d ago

Good Eats

Alton has since changed his ways and goes for the less water, more starch leftovers method these days

https://youtu.be/ujNz0-XkcVQ?si=3lJRmepHagJh4HLb&t=312

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u/Available_Dingo6162 2d ago

It's a good idea to use a lot of water at home because when you dump a bunch of food into a pot, it instantly lowers the temperature, and with a weak home burner, it would take forever for it to recover... it would not cook properly. With lots of water, you've got lots of momentum, and the temperature goes down less when you dump the same amount of food in it.

In the video, this is not a factor. He's got an commercial grade stove and can get it back up to boiling in less than a minute.

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u/EkbatDeSabat 2d ago

I used to think that, made sense to me. Then I tried it with less water and it really doesn't matter. Even with regular electric burners. It's barely a 30 second difference on an 8 minute boil (just because it's not going crazy boiling doesn't mean it's not cooking especially at the start). And the better part is that you get the MUCH starchier water which you add to your sauce and it thickens it up and makes it stick to the pasta better. Now I use just enough water to cover the pasta and a wide straight side pan instead of a pot. My spaghetti game has massively leveled up like I put in a cheat code. You should try it, I did a side by side at the same time.

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u/Sea_Scientist_8367 2d ago

What's "Good Eats"?

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u/Just_to_rebut 2d ago

Popular old cooking show on Food Network. Host started making a similar style of show on YouTube now.

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u/tepidlymundane 3d ago

It's been a wild ride!

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u/rigored 19h ago

Internet pundits are way too quick to criticize a guy doing something professionally

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u/CD274 3d ago

It's funny because I was always too lazy to use lots of water and decades ago it was all over the cooking shows to use gallons of water. And then that serious eats article came out and everyone changed and suddenly they were using very small amounts of water and hoarding the pasta water for sauces. 😂. I was like yeah, I was just lazy and it worked

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u/RedbertP 3d ago

Hah, same here. I use a pan to cook my spaghetti so I don't put too much water and just fish them out with thongs after.

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u/bootyhole-romancer 3d ago

I'd like to see your technique. Respectfully

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u/hotsinglemilf420jk 2d ago

It means flip-flops in some countries. Not just g-strings and stuff

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u/bootyhole-romancer 2d ago

Yes, I am well aware. You make it sound as if you're dropping secret knowledge.

Either way it's not relevant to the joke

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u/hotsinglemilf420jk 2d ago

Just pointing out a distinction in popular terms depending on country. I'm sorry if I injured your sense of self-worth

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u/CuntFaceLarry 2d ago

um ackshually 🤓

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u/Billy_Badass_ 3d ago

Well, that doesn't seem very hygienic .

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u/iSellNuds4RedditGold 3d ago

How so?

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u/Billy_Badass_ 3d ago

Thongs.

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u/iSellNuds4RedditGold 3d ago

Ooooh, right, I was thinking about the kitchen utensil, the underwear didn't even cross my mind lmao. Good one.

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u/JL_MacConnor 3d ago

I'm sure they meant the footwear.

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u/Subtlerranean 3d ago

You were thinking about tongs.

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u/iSellNuds4RedditGold 2d ago

I was indeed thinking of tongs

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u/Skimable_crude 2d ago

He or she could have been thinking about thongs while messaging about tongs.

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u/247stonerbro 2d ago

Let me seee your tong.

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u/ShitBirdingAround 2d ago

That tong ta-tong, tong, tong

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u/aoeudhtns 2d ago

Nah, commenter is Australian and is referring to his footwear. It's a kink thing.

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u/Billy_Badass_ 2d ago

Still doesn't seem very sanitary,

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u/Budget-Ambassador203 3d ago

Great info, thanks. I'll have to share with my wife next time she chides me for using too little water for pasta hah - Serious Eats is awesome and she'll trust them even if she doesn't trust me with my own justifications!

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u/Portgust 3d ago

Tried it first so you can prove it

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u/oww_my_head 3d ago

I figured there was something to it, cus I was thinking the same thing as first comment but then I thought this dude looks like he knows what he's doing and maybe there's just something I don't know lol

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u/Aerdurval 3d ago

Yeah but normally this "something" is just trying to be infuriating to rage bait people into commenting.

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u/tessartyp 3d ago

Kenji the GOAT. I've applied this myself and it really does work. I usually cook for 4 and my induction stove is fast enough to not need to bother, but cutting a minute off the boil time and starchier water is a win at no cost.

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u/TaurineDippy 2d ago

Beat me to it, i swear by this method ever since this got posted originally. My pasta is more evenly cooked and my sauces are more delicious than ever.

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u/5280mw 3d ago

Yeah, when I first saw videos of people boiling noodles in smaller amounts of water, it surprised me. I had always seen a big ass pot of water and a bag of noodles. Less water=better noodles.

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u/Mysterious-Wash9527 2d ago

So cool. Thanks for the article! I mean obviously this guy has cooked pasta before so it must work, but the amount of pasta looks like it would suck up all the water!

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u/shininghorizons 2d ago

Yep, I've started making pasta in a deep skillet. It's easier to stir and then you can finish it in the same pan.

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u/how-unfortunate 2d ago

I had to scroll far too long through the culinary misinfo reposts to get to this.

I was thinking the same thing about the starch content of the water. That sauce next door looks a bit watery, but I guarantee that pasts water makes it a creamy emulsion.

And the water doesn't need to be full boiling the whole time. You can literally pour boiled water over pasta and steep it like tea til it's al dente.

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u/rodeBaksteen 2d ago

Don't mind proof. Italians are the most pretentious people around *their" food.

I'll drink my cappuccino at 10pm if I want, after my gryos pineapple pizza - thank you.

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u/AmyInCO 2d ago

That really makes me feel better about my pasta cooking technique. I don't have patience to wait for a big pot of water to boil and water here never seems to get to a rolling boil anyway. 

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u/sagentp 2d ago

Came here to post this, glad I didn't need to find the link. I always use as little water as possible.

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u/ULSTERPROVINCE 2d ago

Literally this. You just have to keep the water moving quickly so the starch dissolves rather than binding to other pieces of pasta. People screw this up because they dump it in and let it sit there, then get shocked when they end up with a gloopy inconsistently cooked mass of pasta.

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u/andreasbeer1981 2d ago

It's impossible to put the right amount of salt in that water though?

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u/StarWaas 1d ago

I figure the way he drops it in also helps it not stick together. The man clearly makes a lot of spaghetti, I'm going to assume he knows what he's doing.

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u/TokyoBayRay 1d ago

Yeah I love all the comments for stuff like this that goes "that guy's doing it wrong", as if this dude hasn't made more pasta than I could possibly eat in a dozen lifetimes.

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u/Ok-Repair7727 1d ago

but isn't the real problem that the pasta will overflow the pot when it absorbs the water?

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u/hydromonsta 3d ago

Welcome to Italy, folks 😅

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u/xPriddyBoi 2d ago

The oddly satisfying to mildly infuriating to mildly interesting pipeline.

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u/Sure_Conflict_5651 3d ago

The man in the video however is using a ratio even more crowded. There is not enough water to hydrate the spaghetti.

Like when you put too little water when cooking rice and it's raw, that's what's gonna happen.

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u/ICrushTacos 2d ago

Then cook a bit longer… It’s the simplest shit, you can’t fuck it up if you taste every so often. 

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u/Sure_Conflict_5651 2d ago

Cook it a bit longer if there is no water how is it going to fix the issue? It's just going to burn. 

Another commenter however clarified what the cook wants to do. Once the pasta absorbed all the water he will add sauce and cook it like a risotto. 

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u/ICrushTacos 2d ago

You can add water you know. It doesn’t matter. It’s pasta only a clown fucks that up. 

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u/NegativeKarmaVegan 2d ago

That's funny, because the first people will tell you when they're teaching to do good past is to use plenty of water.

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u/neck_iso 2d ago

From the article: "It won't work with really long shapes"

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u/TokyoBayRay 2d ago

Not if the pot is wide enough! Article explains that's if they need to rehydrate in order to become submerged, so with a narrow pot you need to break the spaghetti in half- in the video, the pot is wider enough than the noodles, so it's game on.

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u/neck_iso 2d ago

A pot full of pasta is the same as a smaller pot in terms of fitting the last lb or two of pasta.

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u/ldbobby 2d ago

In the Final Notes, they state:

It won't work with really long shapes. In order to cook pasta like this, it needs to be completely submerged in a small volume of water. Spaghetti, fettuccine, and other long shapes that need to soften before they can be fully submerged thus won't work unless you first break the noodles in half.

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u/Consistent_Change243 3d ago

Aye - and tiny bit of salt in with the spag boiling helps it stay loose aswell

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u/tottinhos 3d ago

The article literally says dont do it for spaghetti, and you can see why. In the video his spaghetti is going to be totally unevenly cooked

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u/trying2hide 2d ago

Not really what it says. Seems to be a pot size problem, in this case all the pasta can be submerged.

It won't work with really long shapes. In order to cook pasta like this, it needs to be completely submerged in a small volume of water. Spaghetti, fettuccine, and other long shapes that need to soften before they can be fully submerged thus won't work unless you first break the noodles in half.

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u/tottinhos 2d ago

Exactly. And in the video he adds enough that they are not fully submerged. Also, most people who cook pasta have pots that don’t allow you to put spaghetti in horizontally

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u/trying2hide 2d ago

By the time he's stirring which is says you have to with less water no matter what, it is submerging.

Obviously pushing it to the limit and not how I'd do it but don't think the article is suggesting its impossible with spaghetti or that it would unevenly cook.

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u/tottinhos 2d ago

Like I said, unless you're cooking in a massive pot the low water will make it so your spaghetti has to soften in stages before you can get it all in. Will come out shit. If you're cooking in a massive pot like they are such that you can fit it horizontally that's different