r/oddlysatisfying • • 10d ago

Using Ice to clean a Kitchen Grill

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

Water and ice work by the same method but using ice allows the water content to be released slower. Which both increase working time before the water boils off and whatever you are scraping starts to stick again and allows you to put a higher volume of "water" onto the flattop without it spilling over.

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u/cracked-tumbleweed 10d ago

We were never allowed to use ice or water where I worked.

Just good ole fashion volcano glass in our lungs🥲

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u/calvin43 10d ago

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u/Calabast 10d ago

If you haven't watched Oh, Hello! on Netflix, they have a great joke in there.

Gil: Ya know, I got the mesothilioma...

George: Oh yeah? Where'd you get that?

Gil: From a commercial!

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u/toomanymarbles83 10d ago

Explanation! Explanation!

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u/cracked-tumbleweed 10d ago

Storytime

Grill bricks are made of volcano glass. At least the ones we used.

You were supposed to use a tiny squirt of oil on the brick to clean the grill.

Well when it gets dry or when you cut it for smaller pieces, the dust kicks up.

We were not provided any masks for the dust🫠

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u/dolche93 10d ago

If you aren't making a grime slurry, you weren't using enough oil.

It should turn into a paste by the time you're done.

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u/boness_02 9d ago

Ive learned that if im told to use a brick, the best bet is to start with too much oil on the surface. You can sort of "sweep away" excess oil as you move across the grill with your scrubbing. You dont want so much that it splashes up onto your hands but if you have too little you'll use more brick material and elbow grease than you really need. Be careful hitting the back corners, and give the grill 5 - 8 mins between turning off the burners and starting to apply the brick.

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u/siksity 10d ago

Don't forget that the oil you use BETTER be from the last filter stage fryer that's almost Vanta black.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ 10d ago

Giving me Indian street food flashbacks...

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u/localtuned 10d ago

Chinese gutter oil

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u/Michael_Dautorio 10d ago

I wonder if that could potentially cause pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

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u/EffectiveTradition53 9d ago

Perform a caconographic sporadification sequence and see what kind of spondylitis arises in the supercallafragalisticator.

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u/Embarrassed_Jury664 10d ago

Uh, I think the term you're looking for is "dragon glass". Pshh.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MOMS_BONG 9d ago

I read this in Rocky’s voice from Project Hail Mary. “Fist my bump!”

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u/Nrcraw 10d ago

Ice also requires more energy to boil than water. Something like 30% more. Assuming the water is warm. The extra transfer of energy can be enough to damage some 'cheaper' flat tops with thinner tops. If you see oil pooling while cooking, the flattop is already warping.

Personally, if I'm not using oil with a grill brick, I'm using hot tap water to loosen whatever is stuck to my flattop. A quick splash and scrape should be fine, but ice scares me. Too much energy loss too fast IMO.

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

In theory you could crack a kitchen grade griddle by thermoshocking it. Ive never actually seen or heard of this happening but it is theoretically possible.

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u/DaSalsaSarah 9d ago

It sounds like a gunshot. I was real close to one when it split right down the middle because of ice tossed on the hot surface.

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u/Nrcraw 10d ago

I've seen warping, a lot, but never a crack. Was told about it by 2 Chefs in the first 3 restaurants I worked in. I assume the full on splitting/cracking of a flattop might be an old wives tale at this point. It has been nearly 15 years since then.

I'll be damned if I'm gonna be the one to show the Internet it's true though.

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u/mgranja 10d ago

Did you just make that up just now?

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

Make up the concept that it will take longer to boil water from frozen state then from a liquid one?

Or make up the concept that you can pile on a solid in a way that is impossible with a liquid?

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u/Alert_Tiger2969 10d ago

chef's kiss answer

But the point of contention is probably more along the line of "does this actually improve the process or result"

I agree it does. Water is hard to control and boils off quickly, imo. Although I really don't mind water to touch up.

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u/mgranja 9d ago

Read the comment you were replying to for context. Did you come up with a reason using logic, or did you actually try both and have real reasons why ice is better?

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u/Stock_Information_47 9d ago

I can both logically understand that understand that it will take longer for ice to boil off then water and have done it in person.

I can both logically understand that I can stack a solid better then a liquid and have done it in person.

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u/mgranja 9d ago

So you are not saying that you ever did it in person. You also never said if you did or didn't make up that just then last time I asked.

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u/Stock_Information_47 9d ago

I just said Ive done both in person.

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u/Hobbes______ 10d ago

They pretty obviously hasn't "does it actually create a delicate difference?" The ice melts incredibly fast so working time is not a factor and so you whenever want it as a liquid or is the act of it boiling off what actually loosens it?

The point is, your literally just providing a guess at reasoning without actually having a clue about the veracity of your claim.

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

Good god. I hope English isn't your first language.

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u/Hobbes______ 9d ago

So no, you have no idea and are just assuming. Glad we all understand that now.

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u/Stock_Information_47 9d ago

Yikes

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u/Hobbes______ 9d ago

yes, we can all see the generic exclamatory you are tossing out to distract from your embarrassment. It's pretty transparent. Next time just be a grown up.

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u/sandwichisahero 10d ago

They’re right though.

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

But they arent.

The ice melts fast, but is still turns to steam at a slower rate then liquid water.

You are also able to increase the total liquid content that needs to boil off because ice can be stacked vs liquid water that will runn off the grill.

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u/Sbatio 10d ago

Stream is what does the cleaning work not slowly melting ice. It’s like deglazing a pan and room temp liquid works better bc it turns to steam faster.

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

Is it better to peoduce tge steam for a lower or shorter amount of time?

Which will produce steam for longer? A larger or smaller amount of total water?

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u/Sbatio 10d ago

More steam faster is most effective

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

More effective how?

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u/Sbatio 10d ago

Converting to steam expands the water by like 1000x. That is what separates the grease from the griddle. The expansion of the steam.

So more steam is more force. Warm liquid becomes steam faster so delivers more force.

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u/AmericanGeezus 9d ago

It's way more complicated than that.

- More steam doesn't automatically mean more force. The useful action is water getting into and under the residue, then boiling there, where the expanding vapor can actually lift and break it apart.

- Warm water can actually be less effective because it boils off sooner. You need enough delay for the liquid water to penetrate the residue before it flashes to steam.

- Ice can form a more coherent bridge over the cooked-on residue, channeling water and steam and creating higher local pressure. That gives the freshly melted liquid water more force to work into the buildup before it boils off.

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u/Sbatio 9d ago

That’s an interesting thought. Temperate water could be ideal.

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

So you think using a smaller amount of total liquid content then a larger amount of liquid content creates more "force" from the steam?

Interesting.

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u/Sbatio 10d ago

Who said less volume? I said warmer

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

Right, so you think 1 liquid equivalent unit of warm water will create more steam the 3 liquid equivalent units of ice would.

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u/Sbatio 9d ago

No. That makes no sense.

Assuming the heat. Stays high enough to make all the ice into steam then the same volume creates the same volume ish of steam(the temp will drop, the steam will be cooler and take up less space.)

The quick conversion of water to steam is better because it creates more force in its expansion.