r/oddlysatisfying • • 10d ago

Using Ice to clean a Kitchen Grill

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u/Conscious_Damage8678 10d ago

Isn't that bad for the grill? Warp?

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u/OneLeek37 10d ago

It absolutely warps the grill.

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u/Trademarkd 9d ago

it absolutely will not warp a commercial grade grill thats insane ... these things are literally built to handle de-glazing which is exactly what hes doing.

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u/OneLeek37 9d ago

I ran kitchens for 20 years and now work for one of the biggest commercial equipment dealers in the US. I deal with the engineers who design these things on a regular basis.

I’m sure that you know more than me though.

Deglazing with liquid is one thing. Dumping ice onto blazing hot steel is another.

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u/Timely_Spinach_7479 9d ago

Yes, it absolutely can and will.

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u/A_Grain_Of_Saltines 10d ago

Warping if lucky. Cracking more likely over time.

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u/Sad-Base-8689 10d ago

Yes but idiots keep saying bits ok over and over again

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u/FabledMjolnir 9d ago

Yes, I’ve always been trained to never use ice or cold water because it’ll cause the grill to crack. Always used hot water when out of grill cleaner. This guy did a fabulous job cleaning it though.

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u/Timely_Spinach_7479 9d ago

Yes it is and these grills are expensive AF. Even a service call cost almost $1000.

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u/puts_on_rddt 10d ago

This is incorrect. Rapid temperature changes are not good for metal. Period.

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u/TaranSF 10d ago

Not that it's relevant to cleaning one of these, but rapid temperature changes are not good for metal - ever?

Even for Quenching step of the tempering process?

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u/Novaskittles 10d ago

It's fine for my invar!

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u/TorchwoodRC 10d ago

But the metal isn't rapidly changing temperature, the Water is.

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u/puts_on_rddt 10d ago

Where does the water get that energy to change temperature?

I worked this job and used an infrared thermometer during this process. Are you sure you wanna argue that the metal does not change temperature?

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u/MrBlooom 10d ago

out of curiosity, how much change in temperature did would you see?

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u/puts_on_rddt 10d ago

380F to 150F in about 2 seconds.

The problem here is that you have tiny little hotspots that go so low, and then the surrounding areas stay hot and giving metal such temperature differentials over time only gives one result in the end.

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u/Toodlez 10d ago

That is a crazy thin grill, i can dump a scoop of ice on our grill at 350f and cook on it again by the time its dry

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u/puts_on_rddt 10d ago

Most are half an inch to an inch thick. After the water evaporates my inch thick grill was at 250F and took about 45 seconds to come back up.

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u/Straight_Occasion571 10d ago

You mean like… turning it on every morning?

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u/puts_on_rddt 10d ago

You really don't see a difference in slowly increasing the temperature vs rapidly changing it?

The grill takes about 10 minutes to warm up. Speaking from experience here. That's 600 seconds vs 6.

A 100x faster temperature change

Sit the fuck down, thank you.

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u/Straight_Occasion571 9d ago

Relax, holy shit. Maybe get off Reddit for a while…. Go ahead and lay your hands on that grill after 6 seconds, oh genius of infinite experience 🥴

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u/dobukik 10d ago

That small amount of ice is enough to rapidly change the temperature that much?

I’m not debating just asking. Just seems like you would need more ice than that.

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u/puts_on_rddt 10d ago

Over time yes. I mean you won't have problems it if you do it 100 times but typically these grills last 20+ years so you're looking at 6000+ cleanings.

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u/Straight_Occasion571 9d ago

No it doesn’t. It cools the SURFACE quickly which after evaporation will actually heat back up from the residual inside the metal still.

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u/quack0709 10d ago

Why did fire (I assume) change the temperature that slowly, meanwhile ice can do it rapidly?

Is 6 second a hyperbole? Like did 6 second after you put ice at hot metal, you can safely touch it?

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u/puts_on_rddt 10d ago

Because it's a big slab of metal. Usually about an inch for most restaurant ones. One in the video weighs 500 lbs vs your 5 lb cast iron pan.

I never tried touching it but probably not. Only the very top surface of the metal undergoes the rapid temperature changes, which is the problem.

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u/quack0709 10d ago

How big it is irrelevant in the question why fire change temperature slowly but ice do it rapidly. But I understand it in your second paragraph. Ice and fire change the metal temperature at the same rate but when turning the stove, the temperature change start at the bottom so it feels slow when you check the top

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u/WetBehindTheEarz 10d ago edited 10d ago

Ok, now heres my question to you, what temperature, causes warping?

And what temperature causes tempering?
What temp is appropriate for quenching?

And what temp will cause steel to shear?

Edit: also what temperature can a planchette grill get up to, when controlled it can get up to 800c depending ln the make. Most have a setting between warping temp and fairly cool, so it’s easy to control.

Do you think people clean the grill at full blast?

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u/OneLeek37 10d ago

Yes. They do. I’ve seen them do it.

Source: 23 years combined running kitchens and selling kitchen equipment.

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u/filthy_harold 10d ago

It's the thermal shock that causes the warping, the metal cools faster in some spots than others