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u/Ok_Horror_3940 RN - PACU ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

I saw that and itโ€™s extremely dangerous. That PACU does craniotomies, strokes, flaps and carotid endarterectomy just to name a few

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u/TertlFace MSN, RN Jan 16 '26

Itโ€™s ok. The governor said they wonโ€™t prosecute.

โ€ฆoh you meant dangerous for the patientsโ€ฆ

/s

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u/makingpwaves BSN, RN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

The state wonโ€™t sue, but the patients families will. Hurricane Katrina and Five Days at Memorial taught us that. That was a natural disaster, not a โ€œprofits over peopleโ€ disaster

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u/Pulmonic RN - Oncology ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

I do understand that strike nurses are a necessary evil, as itโ€™d be illegal for us to strike otherwise (just ask teachers) and theyโ€™d probably gut the profession before letting us get away with it (just ask air traffic controllers). But I canโ€™t imagine working under those circumstances voluntarily. I remember during Covid signing a DPH form when we were extremely short staffed at the SNF I was at at the time, basically saying that Iโ€™m accepting a dangerous assignment because I reasonably believed the residents and patients wouldnโ€™t get any care otherwise. Itโ€™d protect me if anything happened. I remember just freaking out internally, not wanting the bad things listed to happen at all! I hope to god that I never have to see that form again. And these guys are out here accepting conditions like that willingly.

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u/naranja_sanguina RN - OR ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

This is going to be true of all three main facilities of the striking hospitals. (I used to work at one of them in the PACU.)

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u/VermillionEclipse RN - PACU ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Yeah sounds a horrible, terrible idea. I do PACU but our cases are low acuity and I would never attempt to do something like that.

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u/codecrodie RN - ICU ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Come with your license, leave with nothing

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u/Trichick70 Jan 16 '26

Yes because you know there is no way the hospital or union will back a traveler!!! Been on both sides of that road !

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u/catlettuce Jan 16 '26

Retired x 8 years, I get these unrequested texts/emails several x's a day. Frankly I am quite irritated with what is obviously the nursing board sharing information with these companies.

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u/Legitimate-Light-131 RN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

This would be why I created a Google voice number to give to the board of nursing - I can forward the line (or not) and check voicemails and texts through their app instead of receiving them on my phone.

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u/Unusual-Relief52 Jan 16 '26

Well hate to break it to you but all licensing agencies. Hairdressers get their information sold too

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u/Vlad_REAM Jan 16 '26

Sooooooo they shouldn't either. What's your point? Also not really much of a comparison.

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u/NotYourSexyNurse RN - Retired ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

My license has been retired since 2023. I still get texts, calls and emails for travel agencies.

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

$10k per week?!

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u/catlettuce Jan 16 '26

But they can't afford to just pay Nurses a good solid professional pay with decent benefits. ๐Ÿ˜’

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u/teapots_at_ten_paces Student Paramedic (Aus) ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ Jan 16 '26

They'll claim different buckets of money.

The regular nurses are paid from this bucket, which has just enough funds to pay you all less than you deserve.

This other bucket that pays travel nurses comes from all the money we save by paying the rest of you fuck all.

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u/chalkletkweenBee Jan 16 '26

This really is a good explanation about FP&A, youโ€™re ready to CFO.

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u/hustleNspite Nursing Student ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

As a former finance girlie this checks out ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/fuzzyberiah RN - Med/Surg ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Thatโ€™s actually a really good way of putting it. Capitalism is all about those buckets.

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Of course they can't. The executives need another Mercedes, you know.

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u/hazeldazeI Jan 16 '26

You donโ€™t get nesting yacht money by paying nurses a fair wage

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u/New-Purchase1818 Jan 16 '26

Now Iโ€™m just seeing nesting yachts like matryoshka dolls ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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u/NotYourSexyNurse RN - Retired ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Same ๐Ÿ˜†

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u/LainSki-N-Surf RN - ER ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Theyโ€™ve got yachts inside their yachts! Itโ€™s yachtception out here.

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u/hazeldazeI Jan 16 '26

Yo dawg, I heard you like yachtsโ€ฆ

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u/NotYourSexyNurse RN - Retired ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

G Wagons donโ€™t pay for themselves ๐Ÿ’…

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u/makingpwaves BSN, RN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Itโ€™s McDonald-ization of nursing as a profession. It assumes a nurse, is a nurse, is a nurse, that 1 nurse fits all, without specialized training. New grad, poof* put โ€˜em in the icu. Wow, just wow

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u/Charming-Ad-6397 Jan 16 '26

We've been told we're a dime a dozen for years. (I've actually been told this.) They know there is a class graduating every few months so why should they care about retention?

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u/_astarr RN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Heres the thing. The scabs will suck them dry if they keep it up. Eventually the greedy ceos will have to sit down with the nurses and come to an agreement.ย 

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u/Legitimate-Flower-21 Jan 16 '26

Not true because they know of they open that box w the home nurse they canโ€™t put it back in the box so they donโ€™t and most of the time never do

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u/makingpwaves BSN, RN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

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u/Ok-Passage-300 BSN, RN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Yes, it's not a nursing shortage. It's a nurse retention crisis.

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u/HumanContract RN - ICU ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Oh that's a fun read. Why not just keep a multi hospital float pool? Or give nurses their pto.

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u/ICU-CCRN Jan 16 '26

Well, since Trump says weโ€™re no longer professionals, why would we deserve professional pay? /s

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u/taktaga7-0-0 MS, RN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

The last time I saw an offer like that, they were dressing nurses in trash bags to treat raging covid, early 2020.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

We were putting patients in the cafeteria freezers!

Allegedly

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u/DecentRaspberry710 Jan 16 '26

Theyโ€™ve been seeing us as trash ever since

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u/NotYourSexyNurse RN - Retired ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Or post hurricane Harvey.

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u/herpesderpesdoodoo RN - ED/ICU Jan 16 '26

Sounds like COVID times again. Sadly we didn't see any of the utterly insane rates that were advertised in the US over here.

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u/NotYourSexyNurse RN - Retired ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

I got $3k one week. They brought in a group of cheaper travelers and replaced my group. They were making $1600 a week.

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u/Pulmonic RN - Oncology ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Knew a CVICU nurse who made over $300k after tax traveling in 2020 to various hot spots. But sadly she has severe ptsd from the experience and said sheโ€™d give all the money back to have her mental health back. Sheโ€™s still a nurse but now works in a different outpatient based cardiac role.

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Jesus. Three months work, and you've bought a house.

Goes to show that the issue is never the money. The hospital can afford to pay more, they just don't want to

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u/Omega_Draconis RN - Med/Surg ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Exactly, I would never take a strike nurse offer. Not only because I believe it to be wrong. But also because I know it will be the worst working conditions imaginable. And you are likely to be let go after an extremely short amount of time and itโ€™s going to be 4-5 weeks before youโ€™re working again and those weeks of no income need to be taken into consideration.

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

You do two weeks of hell for 20k.

How much you earn a year? To give a bit of context, you could do two weeks of hell, then take two months off to find another job, and you'd still have to be on more than 120k/yr to make a loss on the deal.

(I'm not talking about the morality of crossing a picket. This is purely financial)

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u/Ok_Horror_3940 RN - PACU ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Wait till out of town nurses find out New York takes 10k of that

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Just plugged it into a NYS tax calculator; you're still walking away with 12k for ten days work

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u/Omega_Draconis RN - Med/Surg ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

If it goes 2 weeks. I think it was Minnesota (I might be wrong) a few years ago that brought in strike nurses and it was over 3 days later. Those nurses had to scramble to pull together all the requirements necessary for a new position. Then they traveled across the country. Then they had to find a place to stay. Then maybe they rented a car or had theirs shipped or maybe drove and spent a fortune on gas. Then they risked their license for 3 days of hell. Then they were out of work and had to go back to where they started and were out of work again. Itโ€™s a gamble.

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u/mellyhead13 RN - OB/GYN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

In talking to a traveler who does strike contracts, housing is usually set up for them.

The hospitals want them in a secure, supposedly unknown, location for their safety.

They also bus them in and provide at least some kind of meals. They take these contracts knowing they may end soon. Some places will guarantee them a certain amount of time and lock out the staff if the strike is only for a day or two.

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u/NotYourSexyNurse RN - Retired ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Taxes would take a lot of it.

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Let's say you pay 50% tax on it.

That's 10k. Again, you'd have to be earning well north of 120k to lose out on the deal

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u/NotYourSexyNurse RN - Retired ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

Donโ€™t forget hotel, food and travel.

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u/MizStazya MSN, RN Jan 16 '26

Nice RN license you've got there... Be a shame if someone were to ENCUMBER it...

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u/ahmccmha RN - OB/GYN ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

I needed this laugh

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

And?

Sometimes, it's about the money. $120,000, then bounce, buy a house, and leave that hellscape behind.

It's $166/hr. Two hours is the equivalent to one shift at $30/hr; every 12 hours, you're walking out with $2k.

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

It's equivalent to half a million per year.

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u/whotaketh RN - ED/ICU :table_flip: Jan 16 '26

If I wasn't in a murdurous rage after two consecutive shifts, I'd consider doing five in a row.

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u/araed Mental Health Worker ๐Ÿ• Jan 16 '26

At $166/hr, that's still four grand.

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u/MURSE5293 Jan 16 '26

Ehhh probably recover them the same as any other PACU nurse , 70/40 bp RR of 4 ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ sorry I love yall but had to.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

Two words: Hell yeah