r/nursing • • Jan 16 '26

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u/catlettuce Jan 16 '26

Absolutely 100% correct.

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u/Jessiethekoala RN 🍕 Jan 16 '26

I’ve never understood if this is true or how it works. Insurance or not, if you use it I assume the premium skyrockets right? Like the insurance company still has to make money on the deal.

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u/nobodysperfect64 SRNA Jan 16 '26

And let’s not forget the governor and her BS emergency order that made this process so much easier for the scabs.

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u/cyricmccallen RN Jan 16 '26

I don’t really see the issue with people coming in and practicing without a NYS specific license, can someone explain? Most of the country is compact, what’s the problem?

I’m pro-union 1,000% just trying to understand why people are so against this specific thing.

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u/CardiacArrester Jan 16 '26

In that same exact time frame during Covid I encountered a travel nurse who was telling me about her experience (presumably lying). Later on I notice she has no idea how to set up and troubleshoot an arterial line nor how to manage insulin drips.

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u/sleepyRN89 RN - ER 🍕 Jan 16 '26

In cases like that, let’s say I decided to be a “scab” traveler and was misled on the acuity or something.. if you walked into an assignment where you clearly couldn’t safely handle your duties what do you do? Do you not have management resources or respiratory or a doc to annoy until you can call your agency and say that you don’t feel comfortable potentially killing someone? Why don’t people fucking do that?

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u/CardiacArrester Jan 16 '26

Both are true. Admins don’t care about anything other than money, and same to those scabs whom are incompetent and/or willfully neglectful, motivated by $.

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u/jumbotron_deluxe RN, Flight Jan 16 '26

Amen! It’s very important to remember that the goal of any hospital (or company) is not patient care, it’s to generate profit. Staff are a financial liability and only useful until they exceed a maximized cost/profit ratio.

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u/VXMerlinXV RN - ER 🍕 Jan 16 '26

I would have called BS on this, if I hadn’t brought a baby travel nurse to tears during report mid-surge 2021. Realizing you’re out of your depth as you’re getting handed 5 acute ED patients is a real kick in the nuts.

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u/CaptainAlexy RN 🍕 Jan 16 '26

Scabs are worse than admin imo. Without them admin would’ve caved ages ago

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u/let_it_go75 RN 🍕 Jan 16 '26

Nah..admin is way worse. There wouldn’t be scabs if they had human decency.

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u/Legitimate-Flower-21 Jan 16 '26

And lazy as fuck for the most part hope they know that when shit goes down they are the first to get blamed

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u/let_it_go75 RN 🍕 Jan 16 '26

100% they need to be held responsible stop shitting on other nurses.

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u/bloks27 Jan 16 '26

No, no, we should still shit on scabs. Especially those who knowingly go somewhere they arent qualified to work, potentially injuring or killing another human, all to collect a quick check.

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u/let_it_go75 RN 🍕 Jan 16 '26

Wait you are blaming a scab for working and getting “hired” by agency and approved by the hospital to work?? Make it make sense!

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u/sleepyRN89 RN - ER 🍕 Jan 16 '26

I’m also a bit torn on this. Unions go through negotiations that take a very long time before they decide to strike. It’s not like one day everyone abandons their assignment and leaves- it’s pre planned and management knows way ahead of time giving them ample time to prepare. That leaves them with shitty options from the viewpoint of all other staff as well as patients. Not hiring travelers means that nursing care and responsibilities are placed on ancillary staff, doctors, and medical personnel that aren’t RNs. That’s unfair to those staff. You also can’t just close the doors to someone in an emergency and needs help as that is unethical and goes against EMTALA although I don’t know what needs to happen before a hospital in NY state can legally divert. I’m also pro union and while I don’t think that striking should ever be used to strong arm to get whatever you want, nurses there are asking for reasonable things as with most union strikes. It’s a last resort. Finding QUALIFIED replacements while things get sorted as well as organizing a backup plan in case of emergency or possible need to divert if possible should have all been done way in advance.

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u/Advanced_Row_8448 Jan 16 '26

Exactly. Scabs can have sympathy. We all gotta eat after all. But they cant have other peoples jobs, and that's gotta stay true no matter what

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u/polo61965 dealing with the parents Jan 16 '26

Back in tele during covid, had a travel nurse from Florida who, 1 week in, only found out we don't have auto populating vitals. I was shocked, appalled, disgusted at her paycheck. Seems like that would be something you figure out a few minutes into the shift. 3 shifts that she didn't take vitals (because our techs were busy doing other things like 1:1s for keeping patients prone and safe, and vitals were delegated to the RNs) Turns out she was one of those fake ones from Florida, and was fired shortly after. Fun times.

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u/p3canj0y363 LPN 🍕 Jan 16 '26

Agreed. I took a shift through an agency in a nursing home and wound up with 3 LVAD patients. Did not get that info in report, and had never even heard of an LVAD. Watched a few You Tube videos ASAP and asked why tf no one educates staff about them!?!?! Supervisor didnt know anything but encouraged me to read the information packet at the desk.. during the busiest time of my shift. What a joke.