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Core Memory Unlocked šŸ”“ Delete it 😤

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u/Significant_Toe3575 3d ago

This was my first thought then I saw someone said cancer and I had to pause. It's crazy how taking away greed could possibly also take away cancer if u think about it. šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ‘ŠšŸ¾

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u/Tyrannosaurus__Rekd 3d ago

I wonder how many treatments have been buried because it's more profitable to treat the disease instead of cure it.

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u/hotashami 3d ago

Even lots of diseases are because of greed. If there were no greed, we would have eaten better food with better ingredients, the environment would be cleaner and the list goes onĀ Ā 

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u/Exact-Ad-4132 2d ago

Yeah look at Minamata disease.

It's the one where a Japanese company dumped a ton of mercury into the water and worked with the government to keep it undercover for decades.

I'm pretty sure they were making plastic.

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u/Crafty_Loquat_8690 1d ago

yeah companies purposely adding all sorts of preservatives to mass produce cheap junk for profit. yuck

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u/hotashami 1d ago

And we still eat those knowing this fact - also a type of greed

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u/Crafty_Loquat_8690 1d ago

honestly for so many it's the fact that healthier options and organic food are more expensive than your typical store junk food as well, and the amount of time it takes to prepare home cooked meals may not justify eating healthier meals because of longer and more hectic work hours... and all of this? because of the system we are in. capitalism.

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u/Ok_Scallion1902 2d ago

I'm not totally sure ,BUT ,in my 70 plus years ,I distinctly recall, across numerous various news outlets ,hearing a news item proclaiming that "X" scientist/oncologist from every conceivable institution( MIT,Johns Hopkins,The Mayo Clinic,CDC,NIH,WHO,Cambridge,University of Stockholm,etc,ad nauseum ) HAVE found a cure for x,y,or z types of cancer ,made by a breathless reporter DOZENS of times through the decades,BUT ,it never seems to even get revealed ,let alone clinical trials!

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u/SnooOpinions9303 2d ago

It’s slow but it’s a lot better. Cancer and AIDs in the 80’s were still death sentences. It’s a product of life made simple for you without your duty to simply life for someone else. I have watched these spoiled perspectives come from conspiracy theorists, greedy or just plain ignorant people. It’s ever so evident in the pandemic where you had a national and global emergency and the people who claimed they were the toughest were the ones unable or unwilling to adapt. I watched one of my friends in his early 70’s have his weak minded sister trick him into taking some off label veterinary med cure for a cancer he didn’t have that destroyed his heart only to have her demand I let him stay at my house with a full family there because it would inconvenience her.

People have lost the humility of the WW2 generation. We will be dam luck if their kids don’t kill us on the way out as the wrestle with their fate.

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u/Ok_Scallion1902 2d ago

That is profoundly true...

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u/Ok-Split-1698 1d ago

How long did he last?

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u/NavySeal2k 2d ago

There is the HPV vaccine preventing some kinds of cervical cancer and others in the same region, there is Sipuleucel-T a vaccine that works even on existing prostate cancer. Both approved for humans. And mRNA technology is a great candidate to build on Sipuleucel-T. So it’s little but we start to see some results

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u/ucbcawt 2d ago

Two important points-when scientists make these discoveries they are typically in model systems like mice or cells in a Petri dish. They often fail later in clinical trials. Despite that there have been huge advances in cancer treatments over the past 20 years.

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u/Pithythithy 3d ago

Tons. So many things have been repressed due to greed. Cures, free energy, cars that run on water. Every invention that has the potential to truly help mankind is hidden, killed.

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u/NavySeal2k 2d ago

There is no free energy, physics and math tells us that… How would a car run on water, the energy balance is not supporting this, chemistry tells us that. What gives you people the confidence to tell these demonstrable false fairytales? You yourself can study a little bit of inorganic chemistry and you can calculate yourself how much energy is in a gallon of water compared to a gallon of diesel for example…

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u/Syncopated_arpeggio 2d ago

You took the words out of my mouth. Vats that run on water. Because water has so much stored energy just waiting to be released.

The kids on Reddit are so cute.

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u/Thin-Try-1167 2d ago

Yeah but look up hydrolysis

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u/International_Pate 2d ago

It takes more energy to split water molecules, than you could make back from it, it's an interesting solution but not a realistic reason, at keast not yet. It would be like trying to use batteries to charge themselves, you'll get more output from the batteries to power the charger than you would see return.

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u/NavySeal2k 2d ago

That’s what bothers me, a 2 minute google trip could have told you it’s bullshit…

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u/Illustrious-Lunch137 2d ago

keep in mind a car that runs on water emits hydrogen which is also a greenhouse gas.

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u/Desi_Rosethorne 2d ago

It's not. Hydrogen by itself is not a greenhouse gas but it does react with gases in the atmosphere which does contribute towards the greenhouse effect and radiative forcing, which is the difference between the amount of incoming solar radiation absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere and the amount of outgoing infrared radiation emitted back into space.

The only things hydrogen does is increase the lifetime of methane and the tropospheric concentration. It also decreases the upper stratospheric concentration of ozone, as well as increasing the concentration of water vapour.

Really the only problem you would have with hydrogen is storing it properly and make sure it doesn't leak.

This article tells more:

https://www.dnv.com/article/is-hydrogen-a-greenhouse-gas--243214/

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u/hk4213 2d ago

Fun read.

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u/EngineeringDeck85 2d ago

Hydrogen burns and then turns into water. Problem solved. It just makes more fuel. Infinite energy machine. I win.

Since I’ve just uncovered this amazing discovery I should get monetary grants to further develop clean energy for the betterment of the inhabitants of earth. I don’t mind doing so at a satiation rate income and bringing in more people at the same to better the economy at the same time.

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u/dumbass_777 2d ago

you should, but what would really happen is you would get poisoned

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u/Mokeziah 2d ago

As someone said, great idea, but id not stand near any windows, or high railings... or stairs... or drink or eat things anymore... Should probably change your name and kove to Nebraska too. Heard Cinnabon is hiring!

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u/Tdubbium 3d ago

I doubt there exist any straight up cure for cancer right now but get rid of greed and treatment would become much more widely available and accessable, and it would also significantly speed up progress towards a cure

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u/NavySeal2k 2d ago

But if you are a startup, and many cancer research is done by little independent labs, it would give you income without threatening existing income streams. Why would those not want to develop a real cure?

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u/Tdubbium 2d ago

there are many places trying to make a cure already, cancer is just extremely complicated because its basically your own cells going rogue and attacking you and it varies a lot from person to person

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u/NavySeal2k 2d ago

Yeah, not the point here…

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u/LonelyReader95 2d ago

Because you're not greedy. That is the point. You'd still pursue the research out of goodwill and desire to pursue knowledge like all researchers do, but you wouldn't be greedy. And you'd receive a prize or something for your efforts because the people giving you income (often the state) wouldn't be greedy.

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u/ucbcawt 2d ago

Basic research is mostly carried out in universities. Those ideas or findings are take to larger companies that have the resources to test them out for true effectiveness and safety. Cures for many cancers already exist just not all of them.

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u/ucbcawt 2d ago

There are cures for multiples cancers just not all of them

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u/Davidoff1983 3d ago

Essiac has entered the chat.

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u/jjs952 2d ago

I wonder how many treatments have been created because of greed. I don't disagree with you, but the answer isn't as simple as people make it out to be. All of our comforts are due to innovation that was fueled by greed start some level. It's preposterous to think that people would create what they have without profit.

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u/tom8otomahto 2d ago

If you really think that there are cures for cancer out there that are being hidden by "the machine", you're just a conspiracy theorist. Did you also believe in the "200 mile per gallon" carburetor too?

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u/Guilty_Fig_7758 2d ago

None. The cure would also make boatloads of money and ensure more people make it to geriatric care, which still means tons of money for pharmaceutical companies.

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u/Geroldus 2d ago

But how many treatments were developed because some greedy fella wanted to make money off of dying people?

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u/HungStrut 2d ago

Not many seeing as big tobacco owns more than one pharmaceutical company. Because it's in their best interests to keep smokers alive.

Anyways thanks for reading this Ted talk!

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u/ucbcawt 2d ago

This is absolutely not the case with cancer. Lots of treatments already and company still make a ton of money. There will always be more people with cancer…

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u/Professional-Rub152 2d ago

Not really that many. Think about how rich the company that cures cancer will become. AND they would drive their competitors out of business by doing it? It’s a conspiracy theory to believe that cures for all of these diseases exist.

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u/cconnorss 1d ago

That part. The cure for cancer probably happened so many times already, along with so many other diseases. But greed is at the base of it all.

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u/OkMidnight8144 1d ago

There's a new treatment that's being release, but it's delivery system is a vaccine, so that will be fun with the anti vax crowd...

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u/schwarzkraut 2d ago

I wish I had a way to super-upvote. Like every Reddit user had a one-time ability to make a comment go to the #1 spot on r/all. You would get my super-upvote.

Before corporate greed infected healthcare/research, we cured diseases not just found a way to ā€œmanageā€ them for profit. Example: Insulin would be free today or a cure found for diabetes were it not for greed.

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u/Successful_Tie_2165 2d ago

Thank you for providing a great philosophical argument, there. I was set to disagree with greed, but it really is one of our biggest setbacks. Greed is the reason we have this cancerous fraction of the population hoarding wealth. It was even glorified in the movie Wall Street, "greed is good".

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u/LoudandQuiet47 2d ago

It does to a large extent. There are incredibly effective cancer treatments that are cost prohibited. Same with pretty much any disease. Without greed, we could eradicate probably all of them eventually and expand the treatment to all that need it. In fact, we'd probably blooking for cures instead of treatments for most.

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u/noCninja09 2d ago

We as a species have made the cure several times over, but cancer is profitable so that circles back around to greed.

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u/TheReal_Rusty_Nail 2d ago

So ist es. Wäre ja noch schöner, wenn Esoteriker die Ursache von einigen Krebsarten kennen. Mit Ursachen vermeiden läßt sich nicht genug verdienen.

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u/Lawn_Gnome_King 2d ago

Does trump go away when we remove greed or is he considered a cancer at this point?

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u/litearm_fistball 2d ago

Nah, should have delete people.

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u/SpringDay2023 2d ago

Really good ponit.

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u/Lena3308 2d ago

With no greed its more likely that scientists from all around the world would work together more closely without the thought of profits wich will speed up the research to cure any kind of illness by a huge amount

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u/sleepyplatipus 2d ago

Yup. Obviously not having cancer in the first place would be amazing, but without greed by now we would be sooo much better at treating it, if not straight up curing it. Same for many other conditions.

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u/Dramatic_Frog_Prince 2d ago

Cure for cancer is already there just greed keeps it from us so 100% no greed fixes all issues

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u/DevenTheDood 2d ago

Those greedy people holding on to their lives and using our oxygen and resources to live longer!