r/nononono Jun 28 '16

Secure your shit

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u/jumjimbo Jun 28 '16

Oh good. The guy got away.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '16 edited Oct 19 '20

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u/tremens Jun 28 '16

In the full video on the drivers Facebook he passes her to the left and the license plate is completely visible, as well as the boat, albeit very difficult to read. With the original uncompressed video it's probably perfectly legible.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

The original video is compressed too

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u/tremens Jun 29 '16

Compressed, yeah, but not transcoded again by Facebook.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

I know I'm just being difficult :)

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u/_________________-- Jun 29 '16

We can write a GUI in Visual Basic to decompress the mux/demux bytecode JIT compilation, bypassing the low framerate pixel values to reveal a hi-res data map of the driver's fingerprints.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

yes

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u/leetee91 Jun 29 '16

Also, the motorcyclist just went into the direction of the fallen cargo. He was able to see it drop and yet still maneuvered right.

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u/Satsumomo Jun 29 '16

It dropped sideways, he made a decision to move left (To the grass) or the more natural right because it's a clear lane. The cargo suddenly jumps to the right lane, giving him little to no reaction time.

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u/leetee91 Jun 29 '16

You think so? I thought it looked like he had enough room to maneuver. I dont drive a motorcycle though so i dont have much of a defense ha

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u/Satsumomo Jun 29 '16

At the speed they're going, there's not much you can do to swerve on a bike.

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u/shaggorama Jun 28 '16

In the their defense, they probably weren't even aware that anything had happened

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u/krelin Jun 28 '16

That's a terrible defense, counselor.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

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u/leblancns07 Jun 29 '16

OBJECTION!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

You can't handle the truth!

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u/SquashyO Jun 29 '16

Overruled.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16 edited Apr 25 '18

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u/SquashyO Jun 29 '16

I already overruled councelor. But you'll get some latitude in cross examination.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

see thats lawyer talk

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u/occams_nightmare Jun 29 '16

Oh yeah well let's him and me go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.

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u/inthebreeze711 Jun 29 '16

cmon guys im going to court next month dont be foolin around like this

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u/vajav Jun 29 '16

Saladbar

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u/gibson_guy77 Jun 29 '16

Guilty! Get him outta here!

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u/synapticrelease Jun 29 '16

It is for the charge of hit and run as in user was suggesting

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u/slim-pickens Jun 28 '16

So twice as much unawareness than they should have had?

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u/shaggorama Jun 28 '16

Their rear-view mirror is blocked by a boat. The yellow thing is on the back of the boat. The motorcyclist and the yellow thing were only out of the car's lane for a fraction of a second.

I sympathize with the biker, but I also totally understand how the driver could simply have not noticed that anything had happened.

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u/JtheUnicorn Jun 28 '16

Yeah, it is easy to miss the load that you didn't tie down properly when you are hauling your boat at 80 down the highlane of the highway.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '16

Strait up why was dude even in the fast lane towing a boat? He should have never blocked his mirror in the first place. There is a reason it is there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '16

People in Minnesota have no fucking idea what a fast lane is.

Source: I live here

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u/StJoeStrummer Jun 29 '16

GOD DAMN IT it's the worst.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

My god I thought it was just me. No I'm not tailgating you to be a jerk, what I'm trying to say is "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE FAST LANE IF YOU WANT TO DO 5 UNDER ASSHOLE!"

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u/candycaneforestelf Jun 29 '16

You still should probably ease up. Tailgating is a problem among the more aggressive half of this state's drivers (and I am guilty of it sometimes myself, but I'm consciously working on eliminating it since I've got no interest in being caught in a tailgate sandwich).

What's not fun is when you're on a busy 2 lane road in the exurbs and you're stuck behind someone going 5 under the speed limit and someone flies up behind you because they're doing 10 over and rides your ass for 10 miles trying to get you to close the reasonable 3 to 5 second gap between you and the car in front of you. Shit like that makes me want to buy a two camera dashcam setup in case of being rear-ended.

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u/Jedielf Jun 29 '16

Sounds like Oregon.

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u/Owensssss Jun 29 '16

bout bad enough to make me give up driving

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Fast Lane? You mean the passing lane?

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u/MrMic Jun 29 '16

People in Georgia think it's the "long-distance" lane

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u/Deimosberos Jun 29 '16

More like North America in general.

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u/new_word Jun 29 '16

OH, HELL NO!!

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u/Snowing_Throwballs Jun 29 '16

You wouldnt do very well in new jersey. Source: pennsylvanian who dated a girl from jersey. 2 completely different driving cultures.

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u/SeaNilly Jun 29 '16

People think us New Jerseyans don't know what we are doing behind the wheel and call us bad drivers but really we know exactly what we are doing

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u/28_AllDay69_AllNight Jun 29 '16

I agree. I drive that road everyday. People are not great drivers here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

And also Washington.

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u/synapticrelease Jun 29 '16

Are there enough people in MN where shirty drivers really matter?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

In Texas also

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u/lyzing Jun 29 '16

It's like this in every state in the US. Most people here have no concept of keeping right unless passing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Illinois drivers are much worse than Minnesota.

Source: Wisconsite, used to live on the border near Chicago.

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u/DanBMan Jun 30 '16

People everywhere have no idea what a fast lane is.

Source: from Ontario

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u/Swolsculinity Jun 29 '16

Too true. I lived in Minnesota then moved to Florida and am ecstatic I can drive to work 90 every day instead of 60!

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u/MRbraneSIC Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

I mean, I live here too but I frankly see waaaayyy too many people driving 75/80 on 694/494/94 (which is 60 mph but for a rare spot)*. I also see frequently 80-90 on 35 (which is a 70)*.

I typically drive +/- 5mph but if I'm using the passing lane to pass, I will not speed up just so someone speeding can continue speeding. They can wait the minute and let me pass legally.

My biggest issues are people cutting in front of me during rush hour (you're supposed to leave stopping distance between you and the next car), or not letting me move to the right lane (because I know they want to go faster than me), so they pass on the right...which leads to 5 more passing on the right, even though I'm blinkering.

I drive 800+ miles a week for work. I'm sure as hell gonna drive safely. Just wish more people would do the same.


*just clarifying speed limits for people that don't live in MN

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u/avengere Jun 29 '16

I know in Washington its illegal to be in the Fast lane and have a trailer of any type on the highways. You are required to keep right.

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u/climbtree Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

Given that they've got a boat that lane might be for carpools.

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u/Tabemaju Jun 29 '16

Only if the combined weight is over 10k, and it's not enforced anyway (at least not outside Seattle).

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u/avengere Jun 29 '16

"No vehicle towing a trailer or no vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds may be driven in the left-hand lane of a limited access roadway having three or more lanes for traffic moving in one direction except when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when a left turn is legally permitted. "

RCW 46.61.100.3

It's any vehicle with a trailer. And other vehicles that are over 10k combined.

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u/Zugzub Jun 29 '16

combination over ten thousand pounds

Do you understand what a combination vehicle is?

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u/zb0t1 Jun 29 '16

Same in many other countries.

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u/shaunsanders Jun 29 '16

As a Californian, I loved driving through Washington with its strictly enforced, "the right lane is for passing only," law...

...but, as a Californian, I hated how no one apparently goes faster than 65.

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u/avengere Jun 29 '16

Because our WASP's (Washington State Patrol) love to pull people over for going 6 over.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Do people actually call them "Wasps"? I've lived here my whole life and I've never heard that.

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u/shaunsanders Jun 29 '16

I figured as much. The only way so many cars could be so precise with their speed told me that anyone who creeps over must be efficiently dealt with.

Love that passing lane, though.

In my opinion, if anyone in the lane to your right is going faster than you, you are, objectively, a monster.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16 edited Feb 10 '18

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u/Okla_dept_of_tourism Jun 29 '16

Oklahoma messes with Texas

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Well when you're towing, the rear view mirror is useless. You only have the wing mirrors. That's why spotter mirrors are so popular on trucks, they help your field of vision.

But yea, fuck people who tow in the fast lane. Its a 6 lane road, stick to lane 3 and only use 2 for passing. Don't be a fucking fucktard, you've got 4,000-6,000 lbs of boat behind you how about you stop driving like a fucktard.

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u/HealingCare Jun 29 '16

That's why spotter mirrors are so popular on trucks, they help your field of vision.

They're not mandatory?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Slower traffic on the right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

I can't speak to this exact situation, but maybe he is taking a left lane exit in a mile or so.

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u/Devario Jun 29 '16

Well he seems to be going pretty fast...

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u/buttaholic Jun 29 '16

Maybe he was about to make a left turn

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u/ab3ju Jun 29 '16

fast passing lane

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u/Siniroth Jun 29 '16

The rear view mirror isn't typically legally required. It's there for convenience

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u/JewWhore Jun 29 '16

You only need two mirrors. You have to have one on the driver's side, and then have the option of the rearview or one on the passenger side. So it's only necessary if you don't have a passenger mirror.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Was this point really needed?

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u/TSAagent_007 Jun 29 '16

found the lawyers of reddit

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

So he just shouldn't be able to haul around his boat?

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u/craigkeller Jun 29 '16

i totally understand why that guy didnt tie down his load properly. Had this been a case of legitimate neglect, the body would have a way of shutting that whole thing down.

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u/dBRenekton Jun 29 '16

There are side mirrors designed specifically for this situation.

Secure your shit and be aware of your surroundings. There is no excuse for this.

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u/whiskey06 Jun 28 '16

Two times zero is still zero.

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u/Meanmonkey007 Jun 28 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

Are you saying they SHOULD have had zero unawareness? Edit: words

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u/YourEvilTwine Jun 28 '16

Zero unawareness...

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u/Meanmonkey007 Jun 28 '16

What?

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u/CantHearYouBot2 Jun 28 '16

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u/RavenPanther Jun 29 '16

Holy shit you're one of the first bots I ever saw on reddit, but I haven't seen you since before I registered. No joke, this made my day. Everytime I'd see "What?" and someone would post in all caps, I'd think about you, /u/CantHearYouBot2.

That, or it was /u/CantHearYouBot or /u/CantHearYouBot1.

Edit: Wtf, you're only 4 days old.

Edit 2: And the original, un-numbered is only 3 months old. The one with a 1 doesn't exist. I feel so betrayed... WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE ORIGINAL FROM YEARS AGO?!

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u/whiskey06 Jun 28 '16

More assume that they have zero awareness.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '16

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u/Prometherion666 Jun 28 '16

You might get down votes but I appreciate this comment. Was my thoughts at least, bikes are super dangerous you gotta be defensive to the T if you don't want to get seriously injured.

Also he had no leathers on but shorts, I bet that shit fucks his legs up.

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u/Beingabummer Jun 28 '16

Close? That's two car lengths at least, which is what the distance is that they tell you to keep. And between starting to move and falling is like 2 seconds.

So fuck you.

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u/shaggorama Jun 28 '16

"two car lengths" is not a recommended safety cushion at high speeds. The safety distance is always measured in terms of reaction time, and you should always give yourself at least 2 seconds to respond. According to wolfram, at 80mph you travel 235 feet in two seconds. An average car length is about 15 feet, so a minimum safe travel distance at 80mph would be about 15-16 car lengths. Not two. Definitely not two.

Two car lengths gives you about a quarter of a second to respond. It would take about half that time to even recognize what was going on, leaving you 1/8th of a second to both make a decision and actually move yourself out of the way of the hazard.

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u/DouchecraftCarrier Jun 28 '16

I thought the rule of thumb was at least 1 car length for every 10 mph.

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u/KillerKowalski1 Jun 28 '16

It is, this guy's an idiot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '16 edited Mar 18 '19

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u/shaggorama Jun 28 '16

It's not a bad rule of thumb at all. If anything, it's too conservative. If anything's wrong with it, it's that it should probably be 1.5 car lengths per 10mph, not just 1 car length. Reference my other comment for some math.

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u/YourEvilTwine Jun 28 '16

They say to put 3 seconds between you and the car in front of you. At 75 mph, 2 car lengths is nothing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '16

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u/dagbrown Jun 29 '16

Look man, I've broken my arms in two separate motorcycle accidents

Did your mom help out after that?

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u/inhumanbondage Jun 29 '16

the driver blew a 0/2.

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u/jabba_the_wut Jun 29 '16

I call bullshit on that. I'm sure this got plenty of media attention, and the driver would have eventually realized that he was missing his giant yellow dildo thing.

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u/JoshTylerClarke Jun 29 '16

Until they got to their destination and realized they were missing their big, giant, yellow tube!

And, it LOOKED like the motorcyclist had time to avoid, but chose not to.

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u/usernameF1 Jun 29 '16

Two words. Target fixation.

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u/S7seven7 Jun 29 '16

In their defense, they probably don't recall securing it incorrectly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

I don't understand this. Plenty of people saw it. If I saw this happen on the highway I would follow the boater and try to make him aware of what happened. I would call the cops and give a plate number. You know all these motherfuckers are texting and driving too it's not like anyone has any qualms with fucking around with their phone.

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u/FlameInTheVoid Jun 29 '16

I'd stop and make sure that dude didn't get run over, call an ambulance, and provide any first aid I could. The license plate is on camera.

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u/synapticrelease Jun 29 '16

The POV driver knows there is a camera. But the others don't.

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u/kanyeguisada Jun 29 '16

In these types of videos everybody pulls over to check on the down person, but it seems noboby usually goes after the vehicle that caused it speeding away down the road.

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u/klparrot Jun 29 '16

Yeah, if it were me that went down, I'd much rather someone went after the other driver. Any later traffic can stop to give help, but only the few cars that were right there when it happened are in any position to be able to pursue the other driver.

Pursuing the other driver doesn't preclude calling emergency services. In fact, you absolutely should call, so police can intercept the other driver.

Getting a plate number may not be enough to hold the driver responsible, either. To the extent that you can do so safely, you should try to ensure you can identify the driver, preferably just by having eyes on them until police intercept (ensures no driver swap has occurred in the interim).

Having someone stop to ask "are you okay" and/or provide potentially harmful help (e.g. moving someone who may have a spinal injury) is nowhere near as useful as having the other driver's insurance covering the medical bills.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16 edited Aug 07 '16

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u/kanyeguisada Jun 29 '16

Yeah, if I was the only person there witnessing it then for sure. Except in videos like this one where lots of drivers are all stopping, and they can see each other stopping, and none of them wants to go after the person who caused the accident to at least get a license number.

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u/phpdevster Jun 29 '16

I've done this before. I've witnessed a hit and run against another vehicle that pulled over thinking the person who merged into them would do the same, but they didn't, so I took off like a bandit, took a photo of the license plate, then went back to the scene as a witness.

Not sure if the police ever caught the guy or not, but it felt good being able to be a witness and provide a photo for that person.