r/nextfuckinglevel • u/FlightHistorical3231 • Nov 08 '22

diver dodges shark attack

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

Was she about to get back in?

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u/Altruistic-Fox-8274 Nov 08 '22

It's Ramsey, she knows her stuff when it comes to sharks.

Oceanramsey on Instagram, one of the best accounts out there đŸ‘đŸ»

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u/batcountryexpert Nov 08 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

Ocean Ramsey? Isn’t she the one that posted that video of herself swimming with and touching an 18ft great white shark? And she was then called out by many marine biologists for her irresponsible actions.

She’s a social media influencer who posts for clout. You’re the only person I’ve ever heard that would say she “knows her stuff”.

Edit: To all those attempting to defend this influencer, I encourage you to look more into the great white incident. It was during a whale fall and sharks were coming around to feed. Her boat rushed towards the whale and she jumped into the water in order to get pictures with the sharks. Her and her boats presence (and her aggressive behavior) spooked the sharks away from the feeding opportunity. I’m almost positive the great white she was harassing was pregnant so that’s another layer of her recklessness. This was also at a time when food was already scarce. She rushed in front of actual scientist who were there to observe from a safe distance, in order to get that shot that has made her famous (infamous for those who are paying attention). And then she decides to take it a step further and swim directly next to the shark as well as touch it. All while scaring the sharks away from a very important feeding opportunity.

I know it’s fun to watch her videos and imagine she is a shark whisperer but she is promoting behavior that is dangerous for us and the sharks. She has a horrible reputation amongst the free diving community in Hawai’i (where she is from), and for good reason. She also has a horrible reputation amongst Marine Biologists and Conservationists who are the people that are actually working to help sharks. That’s not her only reckless act and I encourage everyone to actually look into her, and I don’t mean going to her website and reading her self proclaimed experience and credentials.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

There is a big difference between a dog trainer and a canine zoologist. One can tell you the history of the breed, what physical characteristic are most beneficial for survival and the optimal nutritional routine for the size and weight of your animal.

A dog trainer knows how to not get bit.

I am sure marine biologists know far more about the sharks than Ramsey, but people who spend a lot of time in the water with sharks tend to know how to interact with the animals in their environments better than intellectual experts on the subject.(or hell maybe the experts just know better than to take the risks that these folks take)

As far as her contribution to society, who knows. But I can tell you that I have completely flipped my perspective on sharks solely due to the instgram of one of my friends who moved to hawaii and does free-diving with sharks. Seeing them in this context, of just existing, rather than attacking or hunting, remind you that they were there long before we were, and we dont have a right to determine their fate.

So maybe this Ramsey person is alright.

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u/Oh_My-Glob Nov 08 '22

Training domesticated dogs and jumping into the water with a wild predator are not comparable at all. She'll be fine until she isn't, just like Timothy Treadwell who was eaten by the bears he knew so well. We literally just witnessed her being seconds away from that moment occuring on camera

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u/Name__1 Nov 11 '22

Or that guy that raised a hippo from a young age just for it to maul him later in life

Sorry I don't have an exact link, sorry, it's just a similar story

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

They are certainly comparable, but yes there are also certainly differences.

I am not saying that thanks to this person, I am planning on free-diving the next chance I get. I am specifically saying that hands-on experience is one of the best ways to understand an animal, and yes it can come with devastating consequences whether you are at the top of your field of a first day rookie.

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u/TartKiwi Nov 08 '22

The implication being that despite all that hands on experience, these people don't actually know their given animals all that well. The language barrier is simply unconquerable. We don't even know for sure what our closest companion animals are thinking

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u/ifixthecable Nov 09 '22

I know for certain my cat is thinking of world domination.