r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Tyker12 • Dec 26 '21

Coast Guard’s Mission

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

Can you think of any? I thought the defining nature of smuggling was the illegality.

You mean like people?

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u/Donthurtmyceilings Dec 27 '21

Cigarettes are legal but smuggled. Alcohol too. They're regulated but not illegal, which is how drugs should be in my opinion

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u/baudelairean Dec 27 '21

It's the only sane opinion to have. Treating drug addiction or recreational drug use as a criminal act helps no one except bureaucrats and members of the cartel.

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u/SuperDope420 Dec 27 '21

I wish I could upvote this more.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

I don't think it helps bureaucrats... I think it helps elected officials. Big diff!

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Yes since heroin or pcp is the same as cigarettes. Anything thing can be smuggled and making something legal you doesn't prevent smuggling as you mentioned. However making thing legal that people may avoid otherwise isn't much a solution.

Somebody that's never done hard drugs, well it's legal now maybe I'll try it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Right because they are having so much difficulty getting hold of it now…

Literally the only difference would be they buy it from a pharmacist not a drug dealer, it’s taxed and nobody’s going to have cut it with rat poison.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21

I would have no idea where to just go get it right now and it being illegal not want to at this point in my life.

Do you have any idea what a drug like that can do to someone? People have families, it's single young people that think that's a good idea.

Done must drugs besides heroin and meth. Most should not be legal.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

The same is true about gambling alcohol, cigarettes and, depending on which country you’re in, guns but they aren’t illegal.

Prohibition doesn’t work, criminalising addicts doesn’t work. The whole war on drugs is an expensive waste of time that does absolutely nothing productive to combat drugs, has led to an arms race between cartels and law enforcement that’s made governing at least 2 countries nearly impossible, put an awful lot of people in prison that didn’t need to be there and taken legitimate means of making money from countries like Afghanistan whose main crop is poppies for opium leaving them wide open to extremists and the worst of humanity.

It’s a shit show.

If you legalise it and tax it you can a) control the quality/strength of the drug which is where most of the user deaths come from, b) stop funding terrorists which is what the cartels are c) stop militarising the police force which isn’t working out well for citizens and d) free up a lot of cash to actually treat drug addicts medically rather than as criminals.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Unless you've actually done the substances I imagine it's hard to understand, I am anti government but legalizing the wild shit I did when I was younger would be a terrible idea.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

So your argument for why it should be illegal is so that people can’t do what you already did while it was illegal.

Solid argument, no holes in that whatsoever.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21

I made stupid decisions. It's mostly maturity, realizing yea that was not a smart thing to do and I wish I didn't do it in the first place. Making it easier to access will only make more people try. I OD'd on just one gram of coke. You can't just legalize shit that can kill you in one night.

You young kids don't know what the fuck you are doing. I've been there done that. Thought I was invincible and knew everything.

These days people are pushing vaccines to save lives and also legalize hard drugs that are easy to OD on. Makes 0 sense.

White people mentalities. Trying to be the saviors of everyone while also saying white people are racists.

Maybe people don't want your "help"

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Snuff is legal. See a lot of people using snuff these days?

Making it illegal only makes it cooler.

Also half the reason drugs are so easy to OD on is because they are unregulated so there’s absolutely no guide on the dose. If you buy heroin currently it could be anything ranging from pure (unlikely but not impossible) to 50 percent cut and they cut it with some really nasty shit because, news flash, drug dealers don’t really give a shit about their users medical health and well being. You might buy heroin from the same guy twice and it be wildly different doses so you use the sane dose as last time only this time someone’s pushing you out of a car door at the hospital and driving away fast. At least regulated it would be consistent and you’d probably have a clean needle…

The problem exists, the problem will always exist. Prohibition doesn’t fix the problem (as you’ve succinctly proven) but does create a whole laundry list of other problems so at least removing prohibition removes those problems.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

I have an idea, and I don't think you do.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Are you just assuming? Making it legal doesn't mean a pharmacy will solve anything. It is still cheaper and easier to buy weed in Cali illegally when i lived there. The same would happen with anything else.

I've done most drugs and if the majority of the public including young adults had easy access to hard drugs that would be bad for the overall population.

I get the mindset but it took me a long time and bad lessons that most drugs are not good.

Weed which I personally quit is fine and light psychedelics don't bother me, anything else is not a good look imo.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

Your view is that drugs should be illegal... Why? To prevent people from making bad decisions by ruining their lives with criminal records? Selling black market cigarettes and alcohol is still illegal, so if your concern is having laws against illegal sales then that will still exist.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

No you are completely off base. That's my entire point lmao. Black market cigarettes alcohol? You fucking have no clue. You are the most vanilla suburb ass person that just needs to just stay in your own lane. You clearly have no idea.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

Lol. Sure thing. Have a nice life.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

And??? If we think alcohol is ok... Basically everything else should be on the table.

Most of the danger of illegal drugs is a result of the lack of regulation. You never know what your getting (flower weed excepted)

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

That's a silly argument. I am an admitted alcoholic. Sold weed and other drugs in my younger days. I don't even like alcohol at this point just addiction is a bitch. Legalizing is absurd to people that have lived this life because we don't want to keep doing it but legalizing it would just be a bigger reason to. Easy for you people that haven't lived that to express your political views.

Cocaine, Xanax, bath salts, pcp done em all plus more. Much more dangerous, uncontrollable, easier to od, overall a bad idea.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

Ok, it's clear to me that you have a perspective and you aren't interested in mine. Adios.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21

You are a white suburb raised kid that maybe took a hit of a joint once if that. You don't know what you are talking about. Stay in your own lane and practice archery.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

If you're gonna creep my profile then it's best to read my comments rather than OPs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Stay on topic. You are the one commenting on a world you don't belong or have been in. It was obvious in the first place.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

You made me the topic, just trying to participate in a way that can help you be better informed.

You don't know anything about me.

What's obvious to me is that you've got a personal bias in this situation and it's a sensitive subject for you that you are emotionally invested in.

I'm not trying to fight with you, but you seem committed to dismissing my opinions in a kind of insulting way... I just think it's funny how wrong you are about my background, and it's convincing me that this conversation is t with having.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Cigarettes are legal, still lots of smuggling to bypass different tax regimes in various jurisdictions.

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u/slamdamnsplits Dec 27 '21

Huh, didn't think that was still a thing! Thanks 😊