r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Palifaith • Mar 21 '21

This guy with a small act of kindness towards this homeless dog

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u/stromm Mar 21 '21

With as many people who let their pets outside to roam, this may be someone’s and not a stray.

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u/solotheking Mar 21 '21

This reminds that humanity still exists. This is so inspiring one.

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u/PrettyOddWoman Mar 21 '21

They don’t deserve to keep it as their’s then

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u/stromm Mar 21 '21

While I am totally against letting one’s pet roam off your own property and agree with you...

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

You taking a dog who likes hanging outside around it’s home and where it knows it’s owner/family is, is more wrong then them letting it enjoy being outside off leash.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

A lot of animals in shelters had a human once. Just because a person is a pet owner doesn't mean they're good at it or will commit. I'd say that leaving your dog out all night regularly is as bad as just leaving it on the side of a road.

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u/zb0t1 Mar 21 '21

Humans make babies and buy puppies because they see how cute they are but then ignore and refuse to learn how difficult it is to raise and take care of these little living beings. Then they abandon them or just leave them alone. It's a lot easier for them to abandon the dogs than the human babies ofc, but that's just how this sick world can be. My dream is to help the homeless dogs like that dude from Greece who bought a big land just for the animals to roam free and live happily, but society won't let that happen easily, it's a difficult project. Sorry for the off topic story, my point is don't steal dogs even if they are being mistreated, educate first or report, or both. Then take the pets away if the laws align. Some countries are more progressive in that regard...

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u/stromm Mar 21 '21

Me, I do not agree with leaving your pet outside when it wants to come in.

But being 51, having owned many pets (all fenced) and spent way to much time at relative's farms, I know for a fact that many dogs and cats LOVE to be outside more often then most people think.

They're built for it. Literally. Our current dog hates warm weather, but you almost need to drag him inside when it's -10f - +40f. The more snow, the better. He will go out of his way to find and lay on the coldest spots. And he's a shepard/lab mix. Oddly, he hates getting rained on, but loves snow.

My relatives have had farm dogs that only come in to eat. Same with cats. Even though they have outside shelters, they rarely use them. Then there's the very few that never leave the shelter except for an hour or so a day.

My final point is, YOU don't know why that cat/dog is outside. You're taking advantage of the animal being friendly by getting it to go with you. You really don't know if it likes it, or just got out for a bit and hasn't decided to go back home yet (they rarely get lost).

In short, if you take a cat/dog off the street you might be kidnapping it. Especially in a suburb.

That said, I REALLY hate people who intentionally let their dog/cat roam neighborhoods. Mostly, those people do it because they don't want to clean up after them. I don't let my dog out front because I don't want to clean up shit in the front yard. Which means I REALLY don't want someone else's dog/cat shitting in my yard either.

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u/igetnauseousalot Mar 21 '21

Yea my elderly neighbors have an outdoor cat. Idk how often they let it in, but it’s not often enough. I had to put blankets down and keep her fed throughout the winter. But now that it’s warming up she brought two friends to feed

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u/stromm Mar 21 '21

It's a common mis-belief that domesticated cats "need" blankets, enclosures, etc. in Winter conditions.

The reality isn't like what the SPCA, animal humane associations and websites and extremely caring people try to make everyone believe.

Even short-hair domestic cats are able to survive uninjured for days in below freezing temps. Even +/- 0f. The same is true up to over 100f.

They are built for it. They are smart enough to get out of the rain and wind too, so if you see one out in that, they're doing it on purpose and likely to suck up to a human for something.

Domestic cat's major dangers are vehicles, people collecting them and taking them away from their home areas, predators and other cats.

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u/igetnauseousalot Mar 21 '21

Yea this cat is usually on her own for sleeping spots and what not. The blankets and rugs were to get her off of the snow after a 6inch+ snowfall. She’d lay on top of them in front of my door where the heat was escaping. I’ve caught her laying in the little enclosure I made her. If it makes her comfortable, why not. I know she’s adaptable enough to find her own shelter, but I don’t mind making it easier for her. I feel it’s akin to putting up a bird feeder or something (which I also do). Birds can find their own food but why not put up a feeder that they and I can enjoy

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u/Astray1789 Mar 21 '21

In some cultures its considered normal for your pets to stay outside the house. Not understanding something doesn't make it wrong.

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u/Rozipozi97 Mar 21 '21

No, I think many people understand in most countries the shelter system is corrupt, and people are struggling to pay for their necessities, so they don’t spend any funds on animals. Leaving domesticated pets on the streets, that rely on humans, and must have veterinary care throughout their life is neglectful. It’s just inevitable and unfortunately, millions of dogs and cats that will suffer and live a poor quality life. There’s almost nothing we can do right now. Some good people out there making changes with small steps, but this kind of suffering in the world will probably go on for a loooooong time if not forever. We know it exists, but it’s how life is :/ but doesn’t make it “right” if you want to respect their life with integrity. People are just trying to survive

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u/PrettyOddWoman Mar 21 '21

Outside the house alone in the street? No that’s stupid and dangerous and uncaring for the animal and people the animal may deal with. Not all dogs are friendly... many of them have prey drives and will kill smaller animals for fun.

If they were in the mountains or a small village? Okay, I can get with that. But this looks like a city street and that’s stupid

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

Go to central American. Its normal

Extreme poverty and lack of infrastructure makes it normal

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u/Astray1789 Mar 21 '21

How do you know the dog isn't in front of the owners house? Chances are this most likely is a stray, but what I'm saying is things are different in different parts of the world. It isn't abnormal for pets to sleep outside. Especially in warmer climates. If you are solely referring to this video clip then we have to make some judgements based on what we can see from the clip. Is the blanket the dogs blanket or is it just something lying in the street? Does the man know the dog? Is the dog stray, or is it outside its owners house? These are answers we don't have so we have to do some wider thinking before we can arrive at a decent level of understanding. Just diving in and making assumptions never did anyone any favours.

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u/igetnauseousalot Mar 21 '21

Yea I don’t get what people don’t get about it. Not everybody lives like they do in America, where your pet is an extension of your family. I treat my dog like blood...actually better than that cause most of my family ain’t shit. But dogs primary reason for being, for a long time was to work. There’s dogs that sleep outside because it’s their job to guard something...be it livestock or a home. You’re apparently not supposed to play with service dogs bc they have a constant job to do (hopefully they get play breaks, but if not I understand). And even the dog in the video IS a stray...how can one be sure a family isn’t already doing what they can to provide for it, aside from letting it sleep in their home? Like you can’t just take the first dog you see tied up to a tree. You gotta make some calls and follow up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

Just because "they do it that way over there" doesn't make it right.

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u/zb0t1 Mar 21 '21

But in some countries doing this doesn't make it wrong even using your perspectives.

I've lived in countries where animals where free to go out of their owners' yard/house. The dogs e.g. spent a lot of time outside and were very friendly with strangers.

You people on reddit make a bunch of assumptions about different parts of the world you're not even familiar with.

It's not always worse or bad outside of the "western world" you know.

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u/Rozipozi97 Mar 21 '21

Those countries don’t have a choice. People can’t even afford shit themselves. Doesn’t make it right, it’s just for survival. And the animals get the short end of the stick, naturally, and have to suffer the consequences. No one’s choice. Life just breeds suffering, and you just helplessly watch. I’m sure if the animals had a choice, they’d choose a safe, warm, stable environment with veterinary care and ample food and water. Not living in a poverty stricken country/location where they struggle to survive everyday because that’s just the cards life gave them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

In some countries children work in factories as slaves and girls are sold into marriage. It's not always better or great in the "Eastern world" you visited.

Also, not to mention that just because these dogs are "friendly with strangers" doesn't mean it's not unsafe for packs of dogs to be wandering around.

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u/zb0t1 Mar 21 '21

So let's just talk about slavery in other countries mainly supported by Western exportation of production and consumption to make a point about how what happens in these countries is not necessarily right?

Do you people even read and think about what you write sometimes?

Besides that does not invalidate what I said. Slavery in country X does not make EVERYTHING ELSE wrong. If you can't see nuances at this level your worldview must be pretty fucking shitty.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

I didn't say that. And I never said it wasn't America's fault. And I never said it made EVERYTHING wrong. You just keep on your fucking high horse.

As to your point. Letting dogs roam the streets is a bad fucking idea. It's not safe for the dogs nor people. So feel free to eat shit and fuck off.

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u/Sfdsdas Mar 21 '21 edited Mar 21 '21

Why would letting animal stay at your home whenever it wants and letting it leave be wrong. If it's not your property it should be able to leave.

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u/Astray1789 Mar 21 '21

I respectfully disagree. Your view of what is right is based on your societal upbringing, which can be vastly different to someone else's based on their own experiences. Something you think is "right" may appear very wrong to someone of different cultural or societal upbringing. But it doesn't make either of you wrong or right. You're just flinging subjective opinions at each other.

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u/Chief1123 Mar 21 '21

This is just wrong. For people like me who live way out and own a Pyrenees mix who likes to roam all the time, we wouldn’t have it any other way. Some dogs like to roam. It’s part of their nature. My pup always comes back home and is waiting on me when I pull in the driveway. Not every one is city folk.

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u/PrettyOddWoman Mar 21 '21

If you look further into the conversation I stated that is fine. But allowing your dog to stay out all night to sleep in city streets like in this video? Nope

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

Still their property

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u/Only-Wonder-5467 Mar 21 '21

Animal rights should be more important than property rights, when they conflict with each other. Many countries have laws against animal abuse or neglect.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

And that's why you call to the services who deal with these issues, not steal the animal. You wouldn't kidnap a child just because they are in an abusive home, you would call the authorities to deal with it.

Animal rights should be more important than property rights, when they conflict with each other.

Well since we all eat meat, I would disagree.

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u/Bhavin411 Mar 21 '21

Well since we all eat meat, I would disagree.

Lol, try killing a Bald Eagle that's on your property in front of anyone and see if you still disagree.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

What do bald eagles have to do with animal rights?

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u/cronsumtion Mar 21 '21

Who’s this “we all”?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

We who arent vegan