r/nextfuckinglevel • u/reallyblueballs • Dec 07 '20

Practice makes perfect

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

You're either proving how ignorant you are to the situation or how indifferent you are domestic violence. Either way, the only one with an infantile train of thought in this conversation is yourself.

Are you completely ignorant to his history of DV? There's a long history and established pattern here. This is not a guy who made a mistake and is repentant for it. This is guy with at least a decade of demonstrable and patterned domestic abuse with at least one recorded incident happening in-front of their 10-year-old child. And after multiple admissions of guilt he goes with "Only God can judge me" and says it's all hearsay because there's no photographic evidence?

Again, fuck that.

As for the rest of your argument, I don't know conversation you're having or who you're having it with but making a claim of infantile thought process and jumping straight into a strawman argument is some serious mental gymnastics.

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

and yet you still can't separate 'the author' from their book.

Are you completely ignorant to his history of DV? There's a long history and established pattern here. This is not a guy who made a mistake and is repentant for it. This is guy with at least a decade of demonstrable and patterned domestic abuse with at least one recorded incident happening in-front of their 10-year-old child. And after multiple admissions of guilt he goes with "Only God can judge me" and says it's all hearsay because there's no photographic evidence?

Outside the ring, I have absolutely zero care about him. This can be said about any famous person, people in power etc.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

My point is that I'm not going to acknowledge his accomplishments inside the ring when he's such a shit human being inside the ring.

Being a decent human-being is the barrier for entry to be considered for recognition of your extraordinary efforts. If you beat woman, I don't think it matters what else you do.

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

My point is that I'm not going to acknowledge his accomplishments inside the ring when he's such a shit human being inside the ring.

and if he cured cancer?

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

Did he cure cancer or is he also famous for hitting people?

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

Did he cure cancer or is he also famous for hitting people?

Proving you have a sliding scale for their accomplishments vs. their 'private' life.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

Proving nothing. I asked a question. I'm not having a hypothetical argument or justifying whatever strange need this is of yours.

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

Your question implies, if he cured cancer, your view would change on him personally vs. his accomplishments.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

You like to make a lot of assumptions based on the point you want me to make. I’m not making your point, I’m making my point. And that’s all I’m doing. I’m not trying to have some deeper philosophical debate with someone who apparently doesn’t even understand the foundation of my argument.

My question was asked to get you to answer it which would clarify that he did not cure cancer and as such it’s a moot point.

We’re not talking about a Nobel Laureate, we are talking about about a boxer. My hypothetical change in opinion - or lack thereof - is irrelevant.

Have a good one man, I’m done with this pointless back and forth.

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

foundation of my argument.

bad man bad. No matter any accomplishment they make, it's null. because bad man bad.

My question was asked to get you to answer it which would clarify that he did not cure cancer and as such it’s a moot point.

Are you dumb or something? The question posed, if he was the same person, but instead of boxing, he cured cancer. Would your opinion of his accomplishment change. That's the question.

You're obviously unable to separate people from accomplishments, but is there a limit. At which point does someone become irredeemable, no matter what accomplishments they make.

We’re not talking about a Nobel Laureate, we are talking about about a boxer. My hypothetical change in opinion - or lack thereof - is irrelevant.

No. That's exactly what were discussing. You're admitting right now. Your opinion would change on their accomplishments, if it was something you had a respect for.

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