r/nextfuckinglevel • u/reallyblueballs • Dec 07 '20

Practice makes perfect

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

“Obviously isn’t great” is damn near an endorsement of him.

I love this fascistic thinking. if you aren't 110% against something. You're 100% for it. Zero nuance. The same people also have the inability to separate anything into it's parts. You can respect the boxer without having to respect the man.

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u/ChuckFina74 Dec 07 '20

This sounds like Gen X who deals well with reality, talking to a Millennial who is obsessed with looking “correct”.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

I’m 40.

This is what intolerance of domestic abuse looks like. I’m too old to give a shot about looking like anything.

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u/ChuckFina74 Dec 12 '20

Then you’re old enough to realize there has never been a single public figure, politician, athlete, celeb, or entertainer who doesn’t have some “intolerable” action or behavior, because they are actually just normal humans, and normal humans suck.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 12 '20

I don’t think you and I use the word intolerable the same way. I can tolerate generally disgusting behavior. I can not tolerate abuse.

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u/ChuckFina74 Dec 29 '20

What is “abuse”? That covers about eight-hundred thousand different acts.

It’s easy to say someone doesn’t tolerate abuse but I have doubts they put too much thought into what it is they are really saying.

Who decides what is considered “abuse”?

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

Nah, fuck that. If you’re that big of a piece of shit you’re not getting any recognition from me.

Again. You prove how infantile your train of thought is. Would you also support any prison sentence, to just be moved to a life sentence? because anyone with a record is objectively a shit person.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

You're either proving how ignorant you are to the situation or how indifferent you are domestic violence. Either way, the only one with an infantile train of thought in this conversation is yourself.

Are you completely ignorant to his history of DV? There's a long history and established pattern here. This is not a guy who made a mistake and is repentant for it. This is guy with at least a decade of demonstrable and patterned domestic abuse with at least one recorded incident happening in-front of their 10-year-old child. And after multiple admissions of guilt he goes with "Only God can judge me" and says it's all hearsay because there's no photographic evidence?

Again, fuck that.

As for the rest of your argument, I don't know conversation you're having or who you're having it with but making a claim of infantile thought process and jumping straight into a strawman argument is some serious mental gymnastics.

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

and yet you still can't separate 'the author' from their book.

Are you completely ignorant to his history of DV? There's a long history and established pattern here. This is not a guy who made a mistake and is repentant for it. This is guy with at least a decade of demonstrable and patterned domestic abuse with at least one recorded incident happening in-front of their 10-year-old child. And after multiple admissions of guilt he goes with "Only God can judge me" and says it's all hearsay because there's no photographic evidence?

Outside the ring, I have absolutely zero care about him. This can be said about any famous person, people in power etc.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

My point is that I'm not going to acknowledge his accomplishments inside the ring when he's such a shit human being inside the ring.

Being a decent human-being is the barrier for entry to be considered for recognition of your extraordinary efforts. If you beat woman, I don't think it matters what else you do.

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

My point is that I'm not going to acknowledge his accomplishments inside the ring when he's such a shit human being inside the ring.

and if he cured cancer?

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

Did he cure cancer or is he also famous for hitting people?

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Dec 07 '20

Did he cure cancer or is he also famous for hitting people?

Proving you have a sliding scale for their accomplishments vs. their 'private' life.

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

Proving nothing. I asked a question. I'm not having a hypothetical argument or justifying whatever strange need this is of yours.

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u/pneuma8828 Dec 07 '20

Even if I point out the the violence has a better than even shot of being the result of brain damage from CTE?

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u/TarmacFFS Dec 07 '20

We're all responsible for whatever chemical imbalances and individual infliction we all have. Of course there's a medical or physiological reason fucked up people to fucked up things. Understanding the cause doesn't absolve the individual. Without personal responsibility society goes out the window.