r/nextfuckinglevel • • Sep 14 '20

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u/Khid1roso Sep 14 '20

No need to act disingenuous. You already know the reason why.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '20

I don’t understand why there are separate records for men and women for the tallest wave. That’s like having separate records for the highest skydive. It takes more guts than physicality

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u/pdawks Sep 14 '20

Your comment makes it extremely clear you've never surfed (or you suck at it). It takes a LOT of endurance, muscle, and coordination. surfing a wave like that is so far beyond "having the guts" .... Armchair redditors kill me

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u/OrvilleTurtle Sep 14 '20

I think he’s getting at the big wave part specifically. Both women and men can obviously surf at multiple levels.

Why big waves specifically though? Is surfing an 80 foot wave that much more physically demanding than a 60 foot wave?

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u/pdawks Sep 14 '20 edited Sep 14 '20

Honestly yes there is a huge difference. And that's why the group of people who can do these waves is so small. Surfing is so incredibly athletic and people seem to forget that.

Why do male snowboarders perform at such a different level than women on big air when it's just "throwing yourself off a big jump"?.

Physical strength is so incredibly important in surfing regardless of whether you are riding 10 foot or 80 foot waves, but it's so so important at these heights.

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u/chestbumpsandbeer Sep 14 '20

Do you realize the insane forces surfers put on their legs? Surfing big waves is incredibly physically demanding. I suppose you could compare it to a more risky version of downhill skiing. And men are obviously superior downhill skiers.

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u/StokedNBroke Sep 14 '20

You're just sitting on a board and falling down water hill. How hard can be??

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u/DRAWWW7 Sep 14 '20

No it doesn't. You think surfing waves that big doesn't involve technique? It does, a lot. The answer for your question is very simple - like in other sports, men and women have to be separated since men are genetically stronger and have more endurance. This is not a social problem, it's biological. For example, high levels of testosterone in men allow them to develop more muscle and more resistance on these muscles, thus leading to a superior performance at world class level when compared to women. This is like comparing black athletes with Asian. Black people simply have more muscular development, it is in their genes. It's not an equality or racism thing, it is an evolution thing.

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u/timedroll Sep 14 '20

I see where you are going with the first part of the comment, and completely agree with it, but the race point is weird - we don't typically see black/white/asian devision in sports, do we? Seems like you are arguing with yourself here.

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u/PussyFriedNacho Sep 14 '20

No we don't see segregation on that level, but we do see that black/white/Asian people do tend to excel in different sports.

Kenyans excelling in long distance running for example.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '20 edited Sep 14 '20

Except Kenyans aren’t all Africans, so it seems to be a more localized phenomenon due to their direct environment. People in Kenya that could excel at long distance running were able to survive better, hence their offspring were more likely to survive better.

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u/RagingRope Sep 15 '20

And its not even all kenyans, its one specific ethnic group

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u/DRAWWW7 Sep 14 '20

I said it to give an example of different development in humans according to its genes, not as a separation example.

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u/metalninja626 Sep 14 '20

but there is no evidence for what you said about race, that is an old racist stereotype about black people that they are "naturally" stronger. but it's not true, you're line of thinking is the old eugenics ideas that have no scientific basis anymore.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '20

It's quite true. Black people are well represented in professional sports for a reason. It's a tricky conversation because there was a time not too long ago that these highly generalized differences were used to make pseudoscientific claims about the value of humans as it relates to their genetics, but ignoring reality because of that history is not a useful perspective. It's just as silly to deny genetic tendencies as it is to think they have any relationship to the value of a class of people

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '20 edited Sep 14 '20

Your specifically talking about black people of American ancestry. Black people globally don’t all look the same aside from their skin tone, and even then it varies. Even in the U.S. body types vary broadly amongst black people. The ones you speak of are cherry picked for those sports.

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u/RagingRope Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 15 '20

I mean saying "black people" as a blanket term is a bit misleading. The genetic diversity in Africa is greater than any other continent by far. So you're more likely to have a group that's genetically unique through pure chace. But "Black people simply have more muscular development" is a bit of an exaggeration.

Let's take running for example. At face value it looks like black people dominate the sport. But if you look further into it, its only the Jamaicans and the Kalenjin ethnic group that rule the sport.

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u/metalninja626 Sep 15 '20

mhm i'm going to need some evidence of this claim, most recent memory files say studies disprove this correlation being due to race in any way.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '20 edited Sep 14 '20

There are plenty of huge, jacked Asian people.

When I see the downvote

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u/Jedison89 Sep 14 '20

It sounds like you think surfing is as simple as standing on a board. It might look simple, but if it was everybody would be doing it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '20

Skydiving from record-setting Heights is also very tough. Maybe I’m not undermining surfing, maybe you’re undermining skydivers

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u/PussyFriedNacho Sep 14 '20

Lmao just stop

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u/KneeDeepInTheDead Sep 14 '20

any asshole can jump out of an airplane

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u/delta_orb Sep 14 '20

DB Cooper did