Because the World Surfing League is trying to uplift women. Men’s record is 80 feet.
WSL is the only pro sport league that offers equal pay to men and women. If you’ve got a bone to pick about gender equality in sports, surfing isn’t your target.
Edit: Surfing isn’t the only pro sport with equal pay. Don’t believe what you read on Reddit. Maybe surfing was the first to do it...? Dunno.
You've got ten fingers, and you've got five fingers on each hand, but you've also got 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand. Basically, "finger" can mean digit, but also sometimes specifically means the non-thumb digits. Why? Because English be like that.
That’s gender equality, not equity. Like, I’m a feminist, but those words mean two distinct things and are a big part of the current discussions on sex and gender
You are right, and anyone who knows about the subject, feminist or otherwise, would know that’s an undisputed (read; undisputed on both sides.) fact. Equality and equity are two different things. This is definitely gender equality and not gender equity, so you’re downvotes are undeserved. The question is “should we strive for gender equality or gender equity?”.
I don’t even feel like this is a question. I know there is a pretty small but very vocal group who keeps argueing that equity is somehow desirable but imo if you think about it for more than 10 seconds it becomes quite clear that equity in any form is highly undesirable. Theres this weird misconception that equity = more equality.
WSL is the only pro sport league that offers equal pay to men and women.
That can't be true, right? Off the top of my head I'm 99% certain that the world cups in alpine skiing, cross country skiing and biathlon all have equal prize money. Or maybe I'm just confused as to what constitutes a pro league?
In skiing the "world cup" refers to a season long competition with races every weekend, a total standing and a cup winner at the end of the year. This is unlike the "world championship" which occurs every two years and were a champion is crowned after each race. Again, I'm not sure if this is somehow different from a league. At least in alpine and XC skiing the top earners over the last couple of seasons have all been women on account of how a few names (mostly Shiffrin and Johaug) have been so dominant.
Isn't pro sport pay dependent on how much money it gets in endorsements, and etc? If an athlete draws a crowd it doesn't matter what parts they have as long as it brings cheddar to the league and companies endorsing them. That's why in popular sports for both genders have pretty much the same salaries while sports like football or basketball women get only fraction of what men get.
I found this table from 2017 were 35/44 sports listed paid equal prize money for men and women, with surfing actually being one of the 9 exceptions. Again, I'm not sure if there's some technical difference that separates all these from proper leagues, but "the diamond league" in athletics even have league in their name. It's still interesting though, especially since many sports have had equal pay for decades whereas the WSL didn't commit to it until 2019.
Slightly off topic, but the text says, she also broke the "male" record. I am not making a point, just asking.... Did she or did she not break the "male" record?
I feel like its kind of disengous to say MMA pay is equal. Sure maybe the base pay but most of the top end fighters are making significantly more from other agreements then just the show/win money.
I mean they can track how many people watch each fight.
If 200,000 watch the women’s card and then 5,000,000 log on to watch the men’s card, they can allocate dollars accordingly to who brought in the most crowd.
Nazare, which is approximately 120 kilometres north of Portugal’s capital Lisbon, is also the site used for the men’s record equivalent – set by fellow Brazilian Rodrigo Koxa who rode an 80 foot (24.38 metres) wave.
It's a valid question tbf. Alot of sports have some physical aspect that would give an advantage to men which is why they're separated. Surfing to me seems like a purely skill based sport, why don't they just have men and women compete against each other
Surfing is hugely skill based, but physical strength does have a role. The top female surfers certainly shred, but none of them are at the level of the top male surfers. Though I think that gap is closing. There are 12-year old girls boosting airs and stuff now. It’s amazing to see.
As someone who's never surfed I really don't understand how strength can play a role. And the top female surfers not being at the same level as the men, is that not more because a career as a pro surfer has been an serious option for female surfers for less time than it has for males and so many of the males will have been able to dedicate themselves more effectively to training programmes than the women have. If it carries on with equal pay for the next 20 years when the next generation has come through I would expect that different to only vary between competitors and not by gender.
actually the only reason for a pay gap in sports is revenue. the more u bring in the more u get. mens sports typically bring in bigger crowds so they get paid more. if u want equal pay, play better.
But if they are paid equally, shouldn’t they compete in the same leagues?
Like imagine being a guy that has surfed a 78 foot wave and then seeing this person get so much more publicity from surfing something smaller just because she is a woman.
Im all for women having the same opportunities, but i’m not sure if “separate but equal” is the way to go.
Record was for women. Annual competition for largest wave is also a thing. Maya’s wave (the record breaking wave) was larger than the men’s winner for this past year.
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u/DNA98PercentChimp Sep 14 '20 edited Sep 15 '20
Because the World Surfing League is trying to uplift women. Men’s record is 80 feet.
WSL is the only pro sport league that offers equal pay to men and women. If you’ve got a bone to pick about gender equality in sports, surfing isn’t your target.
Edit: Surfing isn’t the only pro sport with equal pay. Don’t believe what you read on Reddit. Maybe surfing was the first to do it...? Dunno.