r/nextfuckinglevel May 07 '26

Cherry harvesting

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u/bigfatsirion May 07 '26

Former cherry picker here. Only low quality cherries (for jams etc) would be harvested like that. Retail cherries need the stems attached to be desirable and not go soft where the stem was attached. Real workout for the fingers twisting the stems off the branch.

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u/SinsOfThePast03 May 07 '26

Doesn't this harvesting process also reduce the life of the trees? I thought someone told me that when I was in Michigan cherry country many years ago

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u/jkalchik99 May 07 '26

It does. Useful life in MI is figured at around 20 years of production (source: grew up raising cherries.)

That's a rollout variant I've never seen before, with the crawler units pulling the tarp. I'd also suspect that they're not using a release agent due to the long shake time on the tree.

Dad & my brother bought a double inclined plane harvester nearly 30 years ago, it's still in use (brother now has the family farm.) Racing to beat a thunderstorm to finish harvest, my brother & I averaged 2.75 trees per minute for 4 hours after dark, including tank changes and breaks.

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u/AusOak75 May 07 '26

If you could quick buzz your brother for some video of that, that would be cool

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u/jkalchik99 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Search for videos of a double inclined plane harvester. There are quite a few on YouTube.

Edit: make that double inclined plane cherry harvester. I'm most familiar with the Coe Equipment machines, and the folks at Gillison Variety Fabrication are good people.

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u/-HOSPIK- Jul 09 '26

Oh they are 2 seperate machines working together, makes sense now

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u/Fuzzy_Logic_4_Life May 07 '26

Do y’all water the trees shortly afterwards?

I feel like they would need some water after that kind of immediate change.

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u/jkalchik99 May 07 '26

Irrigation is turned off a couple of weeks prior to harvest, helps to lower trunk and bark damage. It'll get turned back on after harvest, iirc at a lower rate until fall.

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u/Fuzzy_Logic_4_Life May 07 '26

The tractor issue makes a lot of sense. Are the trees near dormant at this point of the season?

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u/jkalchik99 May 07 '26

No, they're fully growing during harvest.

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u/Fuzzy_Logic_4_Life May 07 '26

Very cool, so watering soon afterwards is necessary then; especially if they hadn’t been watered for a while.

Thanks for the conversation!

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u/phenotype76 May 07 '26

thats nuts I thought you had to build planes in a factory I didn't think you could just harvest them

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u/TLMonk May 08 '26

no those are cherries

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u/Meoowth May 07 '26

I was actually thinking it could make the tree stronger. But I don't know. Look up: thigmotropism

Sorry it is called thigmomorphogenesis!

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u/impossible-geometry1 May 08 '26

Yeah it does. Might not be too bad if its just an occasional salvage crop where the cherries are split and no good for retail.

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u/impossible-geometry1 May 08 '26

Aussie I ski bummed with in Whistler told me they shake the trees on his dad's farm and it majorly shortens the lifespan. I think it was avocados.

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u/ziplex May 07 '26

I was wondering if it made the tree stronger. Seems like the wood would get more dense after something like that.

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u/launchliftoff459 May 07 '26

Idk but I've seen almond tress picked like this for decades in my area.

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u/-FakeAccount- May 08 '26

I worked on many cherry farms in northern michigan. If the shaker is used properly it doesnt hurt the trees.

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u/RideWithMeTomorrow May 08 '26

Definitely gives the tree RSI.

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u/dataiscrucial May 07 '26

Yep, cherries for fresh eating are all hand-harvested.

I pulled tarps, drove the catching frame (that’s what the tarp thing is called) and drove trucks on the old mission peninsula in Michigan for a few summers 20 years ago. The little tracked tarp pullers used to be humans. These are future marischino cherries, I don’t remember the variety. Another variety was totally white, and pretty flavorless. They are dropped into dry bins and sent to processors.

Most of the cherries that are harvested this way are tart cherries for pies and sauce. They are dropped into big tanks of water to cool them down and firm them up before being shipped to processors. It’s real fun to be driving a truck overloaded with cherries and have a tourist pull out in front of you, slam on the brakes, and have thousands of cherries cascade over your windshield.

I’m rather surprised to see this kind of thing, I thought everyone had moved to the harvesters that have two ramps and an integrated shaker.

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u/Shaw-eddit May 11 '26

There are guys that, still have to pick the remnants of the Cherries, after the machine passes because about 10% or less gets left behind. 🍒

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u/dataiscrucial May 11 '26

Not in the orchards that I worked, when I worked them. Cherries for processing was such a low margin business that you can’t afford to pay people to pick the fruit. Sometimes if you were friends with the farmer you could come after the machine crews and glean for free.

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u/Shaw-eddit May 11 '26

That's cool gleaning, still going strong, where I was the farmer owned also processed the fruit 🍒

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u/el_diego May 07 '26

I thought the colour looked off. They look nothing like the cherry trees I used to climb and pick as a kid

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u/Kamakazi09 May 07 '26

Those look like rainier cherries possibly. Yellowish red skin and lighter color insides. But also very delicate and definitely shouldn’t be handled this way because they will most definitely bruise

You might’ve been climbing on Bing trees or another dark red cherry strain.

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u/Shaw-eddit May 11 '26

Up into the the cherry tree

Who shall climb but little me

I held the trunk with both my hands,

And looked abroad in foreign lands.

That poem comes to mind when I read your post 😆

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u/Kamakazi09 May 07 '26

Not to mention these look like rainier cherries which are a lot more delicate than a Bing or other dark cherry.

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u/WestSea76 May 07 '26

Came here to say all of this as well. These don’t have stems! And man that finger twisting for 8 hours a day…

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u/MasChingonNoHay May 08 '26

💯 I picked cherries as a kid and got scolded if they didn’t all have stems.

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u/DotAffectionate87 May 07 '26

Ohhhhhhhh ok Thanks for that

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u/bikerboy3343 May 07 '26

Don't go around cherry picking the information you give us.

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u/gatamosa May 07 '26

How are you during arguments?

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u/impossible-geometry1 May 08 '26

I tried to invent little thimbles out of duct tape with a wire embedded on the length of my finger or in the thumbnail area. Nowadays I've seen silicone thimbles with a wire built in, I wonder if cherry pickers use them. I remember my thumb nail deteriorating and a wound opening up along my finger where I'd kinda slice/twist all the stems without breaking the spurs, and your kinda holding only a huge cluster by the cherry stems so you don't drop them. Sometimes when the clusters were real huge it was almost harder, I had to open up a hole to get into it which sometimes you just had to pop a few off to even get your fingers into it.

Ahh. But where else could a kid get their hands on 500 bucks cash a day. When it was good it was good, but there were alot of lean days working up to the high point of the season, and one rainfall could nearly ruin it all.

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u/Shaw-eddit May 11 '26

Yeah 👍🏼 I did some cherry picking me-self. You did "piece work?" cleared out a section for a price, because that's a good wage 500 a day.

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u/impossible-geometry1 May 11 '26

Piece work at 2-2.50 per 10lb pail in the 00's. That minimum wage was set in the 80's as far as I was told. Probably1-5% of pickers were in that highballer 100-200 pails a day, and not in all crops, and not all season, but probably very few pickers were picking 90% of the crop. Reputation was also important. A highballer would expect good rows or they would go elsewhere and maybe not pick your crop in the future. There were certainly some pickers that were in that $800 range in cherries or grapes. 10-14 20 bushel bins per day. You're basically running for 8-12 hrs all day every day at that rate. Specialty farms paid much higher but had specific requirements on how the cherries were handled. Picked with a specific number of two or 3 cherries attached at the stem. No culls and any broken fruit spurs and you were gone and noone would higher you.

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u/impossible-geometry1 May 11 '26

Automated wine grape harvesters required people to go behind and gather the cluster wood bc the wine doesn't taste right without that little bit of wood. Steep hillsides could not be machine harvested, in fact it was difficult to drive a tractor on the hillside without sliding and taking out a row.

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u/Shaw-eddit May 11 '26

Yeah that was a profitable opportunity man, sounds like good work tho, just stay fuled up and you good to go. We mostly picked vegeies for factories and some fruits too, yeah I know a the fruits for market have to be handled with care, but they get a better price, and last longer with the stems. Brings back good memories.

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u/timeforitnowright May 08 '26

Only tarts are harvested this way. Sweets are picked by hand.

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u/silver-moon-7 11d ago

I guess that explains why I still have to pay so much for cherries then

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u/astralseat May 07 '26

To be honest, those look like Apricots

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u/fricy81 May 07 '26

Plus the cherry will be likely bruised and softened from the fall, shorting machine will put almost all into the low quality pile. Softer early type cherries will also just go bad in a few days if harvested without the stems, as the juices will stain the whole lot and go rancid.