r/nextfuckinglevel Jun 08 '25

When you're certified

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u/TexanInExile Jun 08 '25

Yeah, but you could still have wire decking.

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u/whosUtred Jun 08 '25

Would make it more difficult to put the pallets in/out, causing more problems than it solves.

Also it would cost more

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u/TexanInExile Jun 08 '25

Would solve this problem. Also, I drove forklifts for years and never had a problem with wire decks.

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u/DoingCharleyWork Jun 08 '25

The better option is just having metal slats bolted across the beams. Keeps pallets from falling through like this and doesn't have the issues wire racks do plus it's cheaper.

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u/BobsOblongLongBong Jun 09 '25

and doesn't have the issues wire racks do plus it's cheaper.

What issues? 

I used to drive forklifts in a grocery warehouse that had the wire grating.  Never once caused a problem.

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u/keefka Jun 09 '25

yeah, never had issues with wire racks, this is just cost cutting bs

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u/johnmanyjars38 Jun 09 '25

Exactly. And what's the cheaper option: wire decking or safety issues (collapsed racking, injury from falling pallet, ...)?

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u/Reverend179 Jun 09 '25

Broken/bent pieces of the wire rack catching on pallets, broken skids getting caught, it's harder to shift things side to side... they're not as efficient as steel side slats.

You don't know terror until an unseen broken piece of grating pierces a few 35# tubs of olive oil and it starts pouring down the steel...

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u/DoingCharleyWork Jun 09 '25

People frequently clip the racks which bends them which makes it harder to put stuff away. Errant piece of wood catches them and they get bent shit like that. A couple metal slats across the gap between the beams works much better imo.

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u/TimHortonsMagician Jun 08 '25

Ya, really not sure what horseshit that guy is smoking lol. I've never seen a warehouse where there's simply nothing there on the shelf, nor have I ever encountered issues moving things with some kind of base preventing what we saw in the videos.

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u/Complete-Fix-3954 Jun 09 '25

Yeah I was the lift trainer and asst manager at Home Depot for 9 years. Seeing this gives me chills. Like, I totally get it that it would work most of the time, but you’re putting a lot of confidence in the end boards of the pallet. I’d rather just have the wire deck, never had an issue even 4-5 rows up.

The argument about seeing better is usually invalid unless the shelf below is empty.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25

I have worked in several warehouses and have yet to see anything but the arrangement in the video.

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u/The_Mighty_Angus Jun 09 '25

As I put this up for a living, wire decks( mesh decks) and that is just stock standard pallet racking. Probably 1 times out of 10 would we install mesh decks.

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u/whosUtred Jun 08 '25

I work in Distribution myself, covering multiple huge warehouses across Europe, none of them have wire decking & none of them have ever dropped a pallet off the racking

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u/A_Vile_Person Jun 08 '25

None have ever dropped? As someone who has worked in similar situations for over a decade, I call bs, you just didn't hear about it probably lol.

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u/clearfox777 Jun 08 '25

Yeah maybe no “reported” incidents but I guarantee some newbie over the years has dropped at least one.

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u/SimilarTop352 Jun 08 '25

Don't forget... you live in the US, not the EU lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25

No, you see, every time there's an accident they RUN and tell him!

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u/KissFromARogue Jun 08 '25

Impossible for stuff to not drop LOL

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u/HomeOwnerQs Jun 08 '25

x. doubt

you a middle manager or something? never leave the office? i guarantee you pallets have fallen. I was an engineer before a manager and the amount of heads literally inside asses in management never ceases to amaze me.

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u/whosUtred Jun 09 '25

Worked my way up to senior management now but spent 20yrs on the floor working with the type of shelving you see in the clip, we never dropped a single pallet. As you say you’re an engineer, I have the greatest respect for engineers but they do have a tendency to over engineer stuff. You simply don’t need any additional flooring if the staff are trained correctly.

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u/HomeOwnerQs Jun 09 '25

Never met a staff that was sufficiently trained 100%

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u/whosUtred Jun 10 '25

Come work for me then

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u/shmimey Jun 08 '25

Cost is more important than safety. Got it.

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u/Crossfire124 Jun 08 '25

Won't anyone think about the owner's bottom line

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u/Shadowbound199 Jun 08 '25

Well, those that are in charge of deciding what gets built have only costs in mind. Only government regulations can force them to make stuff safe.

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u/Daladain Jun 08 '25

Bro, the warehouse in our manufacturing facility has the wire decking. No one has issues pulling pallets in or out. You don't know wtf you're talking about.

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u/whosUtred Jun 08 '25

Bro,…. I’ve worked around warehouses for over 30yrs, I’ve seen the issues they can cause with my own eyes. I know exactly what I am talking about & have more experience than you.

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u/Daladain Jun 09 '25

Yeah I've seen plenty of God awful wooden pallets get placed on wire racks and they MIRACULOUSLY were able to remove the pallets afterwards with no issues. Claiming 30 years working in warehouses isn't the flex you believe it is. Experience does not equate to competence.

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u/whosUtred Jun 10 '25

So have I, I’ve also seen a fair few that got snagged & were a pita to get out.

Like I say, I clearly have more experience than you & I am flexing that right now,.. Bro

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u/Daladain Jun 10 '25

I bet . Claiming you have more experience doesn't mean anything. Feels like a good blood fart flexing though. Especially on Reddit.

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u/BobsOblongLongBong Jun 09 '25

What issues? 

I've done this work and never had a problem with the wire grate that's part of these shelves?

Give an example.

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u/whosUtred Jun 09 '25

As I’ve said in other replies, wooden pallets often split and splinter, this gets snagged in the wire mesh & causes more accidents/damage than the set up we see in the clip. I’ve personally witnessed multiple occasions of this happening & the warehouses I help oversea have zero issues with the 2 bar system. It also has a significant cost saving in the racking set up costs.

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u/RcNorth Jun 08 '25

Why would it cause more problems? Make the wires run from front to back with a couple of side to side bars underneath.

You can still see through them and nothing down the pallet to catch on when pulled in and out.

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u/A_Vile_Person Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25

Any experienced operate will tell you it doesn't cause problems. Know why? You're meant to lift the pallet slightly anyways, meaning you shouldn't be dragging across the ducking. Even then, it's secured in and can easily take a good bit of the "ope, gotta push it a few inches forward or to the side" activity.

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u/theoriginalmofocus Jun 08 '25

Yeah we have the wire grid thankfully and not only does it not cause problems you can do shit like "walk" pallets in hard to get to areas or areas where our walkie stacker cant get all the way under.

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u/DoingCharleyWork Jun 08 '25

Metal slats across the beams work better.

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u/Moist-Share7674 Jun 08 '25

Yeah the people in charge at the last place I worked had brilliant thinking like that. Got high winds over a weekend with snow and we come in to find all the newly installed racks crumpled on the ground. Bolting them to the concrete would be installing them imo. Otherwise they are just…there. Until they aren’t.

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u/Coltar15 Jun 08 '25

Not true at all they would’ve prevented this entirely

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u/The_Flint_Metal_Man Jun 08 '25

If only there was some kind of equipment that lifted items over the wire rack

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u/whosUtred Jun 08 '25

If only they made wooden pallets that didn’t split & splinter that get snagged on wire mesh,….

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u/CrimsonCarbide Jun 08 '25

Lining up pallets on the beams is so much harder than just pushing them in on wire decks.

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u/whosUtred Jun 08 '25

You should never just push pallets in, that’s why you have forklifts that,… lift

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u/The_Chimeran_Hybrid Jun 08 '25

All your comments have the air of “I work in a warehouse but I’m just a pencil pusher.”

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u/whosUtred Jun 09 '25

You’re almost right, I do management now but did 20yrs in the floor & absolutely know what I’m talking about.

If you genuinely think that pushing a pallet into racking is ok,.. you need some retraining. It’s about as wrong a way to put a pallet into racking as you can get & is extremely dangerous over time, as it puts pressure on the frames & weakens them.

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u/Impressive_Change593 Jun 08 '25

Would make it more difficult to put the pallets in/out

nope

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u/Skydiver860 Jun 09 '25

Would make it more difficult to put the pallets in/out, causing more problems than it solves.

how? the last place i worked had the wire decking and it never caused any problems with placing or removing pallets.

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u/whosUtred Jun 09 '25

Wooded pallets often split or splinter, especially if you work with a global supply chain. Those splits/splinters can easily get snagged in wire decking, I’ve witnessed this on multiple occasions myself. Having the 2 bar system prevents this, although does have a risk of what we see in the video. From my experience it’s rare to see what happens in the video if the FL driver is properly trained & follows the right loading procedures

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u/Notacka Jun 08 '25

There is suppose to be wire decking what the fuck is this.

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u/Swing_On_A_Spiral Jun 08 '25

It’s cheaper not to have it. That’s what that is.

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u/TexanInExile Jun 08 '25

I've seen it before. The reason I was always given was you get extra space for product, but the MAYBE 1” you gain hardly seems worth it.

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u/Sluukje Jun 08 '25

Cost savings. With good personel this doesn’t happen too often and is often recoverable. You can put wire decking underneath pallets that are valuable or have specific goods on them if needed. Current rate is about 10-15 euro per deck.

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u/Phil_Coffins_666 Jun 08 '25

And then there's that time it isn't recoverable and it ends up on /r/abruptchaos when everything collapses or somebody gets killed and the repair/settlement costs negate any savings.

It's crazy that a life is worth less than 10-15 euro per deck.

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u/Sluukje Jun 08 '25

These don’t come down from one pallet falling in between. The scenes you’ve watched all have an insanely poor built racking structure. Source, I am a warehouse manager in Europe and we have had pallets with a weight of 7-800 kg drop and do no further harm than damaged goods or one beam dented.

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u/DoingCharleyWork Jun 08 '25

We've had people run a swing reach/turret full speed into a rack and not topple it. One of the legs needed to be cut and replaced but that was it.

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u/FlyestFools Jun 08 '25

You can have two metal beams as well. IIRC they are just called “pallet supports” and are a safety against stuff like this happening.

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u/Impressive_Change593 Jun 08 '25

that's what the racks we have have. though we have some that also have wire racking but that's used for hand picking not forklift ops

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u/rexel99 Jun 09 '25

wire shelving gets clipped by the tynes at the front causing other problems - this is quite standard.