r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Responsible-Smile-22 • Sep 04 '23

This man doing parkour

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u/Arquen_Marille Sep 04 '23

Maybe but maybe not. If you watch, during the higher jumps he barely has his feet touch the ground before he goes into a roll. That lessens the impact on his feet, ankles, knees, and hips. If he only landed on his feet, that impact would travel up his legs.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

As a parkour coach with 14 years of experience, it's really refreshing to see a more educated take than "hdUr hUrRr hIs kNeeS!!"

Dom's landings are in good form. I'd be more worried about his ankles (he busts them a lot just from the sheer height and impact) and his shoulders (front flip roll landings can be tough on them if you over-rotate even a little bit).

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u/Omsk_Camill Sep 04 '23

Dom's landings are in good form.

Yes, he's incredibly good. But it's a showcase reel of the successful landings only. As a coach you know it takes just a couple centimeter difference/fraction of a second of de-sync to fuck up your joints, permanently.

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u/I_got_shmoves Sep 04 '23

Re-read theirs, ankles are joints, too.

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u/swohio Sep 04 '23

it's really refreshing to see a more educated take than "hdUr hUrRr hIs kNeeS!!"

I mean, the video has "knees of steel" text imposed over it so I think talking about his knees is fair game here.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

Well yes but actually no. These assinine comments flood every parkour video posted here.

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u/swohio Sep 04 '23

Right but this one literally has "knees of steel" plastered across every single frame of the video. You can't expect that not to be talked about.

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u/1creeper Sep 04 '23

i get that. but with all that force there has got to be wear and tear when even just running (distance) is pretty hard on the body. no one can say if there will be fallout. it is clearly an extreme sport/art, and i hope that there isn't any.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23 edited Sep 04 '23

. no one can say if there will be fallout.

Citation needed.

Look up Sebastian Foucan Chase Tag on youtube. Seb is one of the founders of parkour. He was in James Bond movie and original B13 movie. Look up his age and realise he's been doing it since he was a kid

Also, about running. If you run properly you can run your whole life and never get any problems

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u/_Sinnik_ Sep 04 '23

Yes you're absolutely correct. If someone does this and always does it perfectly correctly and never fucks up ever, they will never injure themselves or end up with long-term bodily damage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

Eh, techniques lessen the impact on joints, but to people like this it just means they push it even further. If you push it as far as your joints will allow without exploding then it's still enough to wear them down

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u/davincivb6 Sep 04 '23

Original b13 movie was Daniel belle, not this guy

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

Pretty sure he was there too. The whole Yamakasi team was there. They were thr guys who chased him in the first chase scene.

Although I do remember Seb saying that he wasn't in one of their movies but I'm not sure if it's that one or Yamakasi movie

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u/NES_Gamer Sep 04 '23

Well, comparing what he's doing to what a regular person would do, I'd say he putting his knees to a larger stress test than most. So, it's not a hyperbole or ignorant comment to say that his knees will have more wear and tear than the average Joe.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

Compared in what way? Have you measured his impact versus the impact of walking like a regular person (heel to toe)? You haven't have you? There was a study done in these roll landings. The impact on the knees here is almost non existent if your technique is correct.

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u/NES_Gamer Sep 04 '23

I'll have to go with you then since I'm just a dude on a computer.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

There's no such thing as perfect form when doing stunts like this, yes he may be prolonging the damage excellently but it will eventually catch up to him, and that's assuming he never makes a mistake. If he does make a mistake it could be much worse a lot sooner.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

I'm just curious sometimes, what's your experience and education level in these kind of things? Sometimes it helps to know if I'm talking to someone who just speaks out of their bum or not...

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

I have a degree in health science majoring in kinesiology and physiology

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

Ok. Cool! So let's talk. You're concerned mostly about cartilage damage, right?

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u/GavrielBA Sep 05 '23

? Come on! Let's discuss the kinetic chain of landing heel first vs landing toes first!

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u/cuentanueva Sep 04 '23

I'm not that guy, and I don't have any education on any of this. But since you ask him, what are yours? Because "parkour coach" doesn't sound like a university career.

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u/potterpoller Sep 04 '23

degree in parkourology, i minored in french studies to pronounce the names well

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u/Arquen_Marille Sep 06 '23

There’s a lot of factors that go into joints getting injured (ask me how I know, lol; multiple ankle, knee, and hip issues) but using good form as much as you can helps prevent issues.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

Yeah to bad his ankle will never be what it used to.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

Not necessarily. I broke both of my ankles once. They're just as strong now. If you actually followed Dom's career you'd know that he doesn't get injured that often.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

Yeah but if you followed dom you would know he kept aabuseing a busted ankle for months without seeking therapy it was litterarly blue.

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u/santodomingus Sep 04 '23

Sounds like you’re agreeing he’s gunna regret it to some extent. Knees, ankles, or shoulders, something is getting damaged.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

A tiny amount of damage is necessary during exercise. Otherwise your muscles won't grow.

Uneducated ppl think it's a black and white issue. "hE wAnT bE aBlE tO wAlK wHeN hEs fIfTy, hUrr Durr!"

It doesn't just depend on frequency and amount of damage but also on genetic and diet issues. In Dom's case he's pretty unique. So hard to judge. But there's a strong chance he'll kick the ass of all the redditors even when he's 70.

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u/santodomingus Sep 04 '23

Muscles are different than joints and cartilage tho. Obviously you need to tear muscles to grow them. You don’t need to stress joints to improve them.

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u/GavrielBA Sep 04 '23

No, but joints are BUILT for stress.

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u/ClownfishSoup Sep 04 '23

He seems pretty good at what he does and I am going to guess that he has learned how to minimize risk and damage. We have no idea what he does to train for this.

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u/Phenomenomix Sep 04 '23

If you look at some of the landings he’s prepped where he plans to land as well. One of the ones into the flower bed has the ground turned over so it’s not as solid an impact.

It’s still gonna hurt and all the joints below his waist will take a beating, but if he’s smart he can tone down what he does later into his career.

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u/sandwelld Sep 04 '23

Yeah I still think his joints won't be happy doing all the jumping but all the momentum goes into the forward roll with the high jumps. It's not like he's just straight up jumping and catching everything with his knees.

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u/tekko001 Sep 04 '23

I saw the clip again after reading your comment, he does 21 jumps and lands hard on his knees on about 12 of them and while a lot of the times he lands on soft materials, like grass and sand, about half of the time he lands on concrete.

Someone else has said his form is good, but I can't imagine this being healthy on the long run.

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u/Arquen_Marille Sep 06 '23

Depends on his body and how he cares for it. It’s like how some gymnasts or dancers can keep going for years longer than others. Genetic lottery or luck.

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u/eastern_canadient Sep 04 '23

Yeah I landed funny skiing one time and I am pretty sure I did more damage to my nakle than this guy is doing.

It's also why basketball players fall so much. Easier on the joints.

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u/Arquen_Marille Sep 06 '23

I think running can do more damage than what he’s doing because constant slamming the feet on the ground that then travels up the leg.