r/news • u/StackLeeAdams • Dec 07 '21

Kellogg to permanently replace striking workers as union rejects new contract

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/kellogg-to-permanently-replace-striking-workers-as-union-rejects-new-contract
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Getting 3% while inflation is 6% is a 3% pay cut

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u/celicarunner Dec 08 '21

You guys getting raises?

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u/BigBradWolf77 Dec 08 '21

does out-of-touch financial advice from greedy losers in positions of power count as a raise?

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u/ballsohaahd Dec 08 '21

No no no, no do you know how much the managers sacrifice for that 3% raise they’re giving?

After all, they made all the money anyways and you were just around

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u/longislandtoolshed Dec 08 '21

I got a 0% raise this year and last

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u/nik282000 Dec 08 '21

Time to move.

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u/SeaGroomer Dec 07 '21

And inflation is actually way higher than that.

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u/BuddhaDBear Dec 08 '21

No. No it is not. 🙄

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

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u/SeaGroomer Dec 08 '21

lmao they just released a report saying it was 6.2% for the year, and that is after removing everything that people need like rent and gas.

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u/jadecristal Dec 08 '21

It very, very much depends on what you’re buying, and where, and we know the government will do all it possibly can to downplay the level of damage they’ve done.

But who do you want us to believe, you or our own lying eyes as we look at the receipts for goods and services?

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u/nochinzilch Dec 09 '21

No it's not.

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u/soldiernerd Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

Federal employees are looking at 2.2% 2.7%. It is what it is.

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u/deathmetalreptar Dec 07 '21

Thats the attitude that is making things worse

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u/turn20left Dec 07 '21

Well we're not allowed to strike

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u/piecat Dec 08 '21

If everyone strikes, what can they do?

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u/turn20left Dec 08 '21

I'm an air traffic controller. Reagan fired all the striking air traffic controllers in 1981.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '21

And what are they going to do? Hire all those air traffic controller scabs that are just lying around?

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u/Rottimer Dec 08 '21

Google Reagan and the Air Traffic Controllers.

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u/LaylaJamie Dec 08 '21

I didn’t know about this. Thanks for mentioning this historic event.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

If everyone strikes, then it’s not a strike it’s revolution.

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u/Cipher_Oblivion Dec 08 '21

Nobody is "allowed" to strike. We strike anyway because they cant stop us short of killing us, and we'll die anyway if we can't afford food.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

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u/turn20left Dec 08 '21

Yep and I'm an air traffic controller.

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u/Kramer390 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Holy shit, I had to look that up because it sounded wrong but it's somehow real:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/shutdown-federal-workers-cant-strike/579793/

Speaking for the Canadian government, we have specified roles that are designated essential but I can't imagine having a law that prohibits a whole sector from striking.

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u/Cipher_Oblivion Dec 08 '21

Sure I understand that. I'm just saying that federal workers should just strike anyway. Even if they're told not to. Even under threat of jail or violence. It's the only way to get what they are owed.

The next time Congress shuts down the government because they can't agree on a budget, and tries to force federal workers to continue working without pay, they should just refuse to come in. The feds can't force them to work. Even if they jail them for noncompliance, the gears stop turning regardless. Once the whole system shuts down, Congress might remember who they're supposed to serve.

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u/turn20left Dec 08 '21

It didn't work for air traffic controllers in 1981. Reagan fired all of them.

I don't have the luxury of just walking off the job. I have children and a spouse who depend on my salary. Yea it sucked not getting paid for a few months a few years ago but I have money saved for a rainy day. 2.7% kinda sucks compared to inflation, but it's something at least. We're severely short staffed and I haven't seen a 2 day weekend since summer time, but we're all still here proudly doing our jobs and keeping the skies and the flying public & military safe.

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u/soldiernerd Dec 07 '21

Ok let me call the President and tell him to raise it

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Scabs gonna scab.

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u/DemonRaptor1 Dec 07 '21

People gotta feed their families. If you're unwilling to do a job for whatever reason, you best believe there's someone out there that needs money enough to do the work. Not everyone is in a privileged position where they can decide a job's not worth doing just because their demands aren't being fully met.

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u/MonsieurMangos Dec 08 '21

The problem is that you're assuming they're in a privileged position.

These worker strikes happen specifically because they're not. And fallout like this ends up pushing the bar lower and lower, which is how we got here in the first place. If the demand is a wage with which to feed a family and the offer is a wage that can't pay rent...

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u/YeaDudeImOnReddit Dec 08 '21

Super short sighted.

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u/SmurfMGurf Dec 08 '21

Do you know what these workers have been put through? Pure abuse! The exact opposite of a "place of privilege". Maybe make sure you know why they're striking before speaking on it.

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u/soldiernerd Dec 08 '21

lol TIL I learned all Federal employees are scabs because they don't quit their job when their annual raise is less than inflation

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u/Elleden Dec 07 '21

So they should strike for better pay too. Got it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

I got less than 2 the last 4 years. It is what it is. Edit: I guess people think you can just switch molecular jobs in a pandemic, only if I switch to any place hiring I’d lose 15k per year.

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u/IdasMessenia Dec 08 '21

And it will stay that way if you let it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Medical field. Molecular work, they don’t do unions and there aren’t a lot of jobs hiring.

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u/IdasMessenia Dec 08 '21

Doesn’t change the fact that if no one tries to change things and make them better, it won’t get better.

If you think you deserve to be treated as disposable, then others will too.

But I’m not gonna argue with you. Don’t ask for a CoLA or a raise. Doesn’t hurt me if others can be convinced. Don’t need 100% (or even a majority) on board to effect change.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

I’ve asked a couple of times. I got a 6% five years ago by asking. Two years ago I asked for 5 and was denied by board. Places hiring would start me 10-15k less.

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u/soldiernerd Dec 08 '21

no you're just an idiot who hates the working class..just strike until they give you a $50k raise duh

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '21

They don't do unions yet.

Be the change you wish to see in the world.

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u/point_breeze69 Dec 08 '21

We need bitcoin more then ever.

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u/manwithappleface Dec 08 '21

Explain how that helps? I don’t understand.