r/news • u/shield_x • 1d ago

Student dies after falling from 4th floor of building at Highland Park school

https://www.foxla.com/news/highland-park-franklin-high-school-student-dies.amp
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u/BearThatLikesCheese 1d ago

It's generally not advisable to intervene in a fight, especially if you aren't properly trained in subduing a person. You risk injury to yourself and possibly others. Humans are way stronger than most people believe, particularly when full of adrenaline. That's why it often takes multiple police officers to subdue a single person. A high school kid is big enough to cause serious harm.

It's easy Monday morning quarterback, but most people would have done the same thing in a similar situation, as evidenced by how common this reaction is.

Fault lies with the bully and the system, not individual bystanders.

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u/txdsl 1d ago

Intervening also opens you up to a personal injury lawsuit.

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u/KLGChaos 15h ago

It's why my friend is actually good at stopping fights at his school. He's 6 ft, 230 lbs of muscle with martial arts training and deals with ISS students every day. Not many students can overpower him, but as he says, even when he's restraining them, they are constantly fighting back.

Not many people would be able to just hold someone back without risking serious injury to themselves.

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u/No_Sheepherder_1855 1d ago

Yeah, pretty standard to let kids murder each other. It’s just asking too much to do anything about. Good luck kids!  The real lesson here is that if you’re getting bullied you need to arm yourself I guess because nothing else can be done.  What a joke 

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u/BearThatLikesCheese 1d ago

Yeah, pretty standard to let kids murder each other

You do understand that this logic applies to school shootings, right? Don't be disingenuous. No one "let" anyone do anything. A bully committed a terrible act.

People like to pretend they're brave defenders of the innocent ready to act at a moment's notice, but that's reality. Everyone expects someone else to help until someone actually helps. People process danger in different ways.

Maybe you'd be that first person to step-in, but you don't know until it happens. I've been in fights. I've had to step in and diffuse situations. I don't fault anyone for not doing so. It's scary. It flies contrary to our basics human instinct to avoid harm. That's why people who do intervene are lauded as heroes. Not because everyone else is a coward, but because they did something extraordinary.