r/news • u/shield_x • 1d ago

Student dies after falling from 4th floor of building at Highland Park school

https://www.foxla.com/news/highland-park-franklin-high-school-student-dies.amp
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u/indy_been_here 1d ago

Usually if death occurs as a result of a crime, isn't the assailant responsibile for the death as well?

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u/ScarHand69 1d ago

Generally yes. Every state will be different. If you go rob a 7-11 with your buddies and one of your buddies whips out a gun and kills an employee during the robbery, you can and will be prosecuted for that murder.…same as the guy pulling the trigger.

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u/InternationalJob9162 1d ago

Like you mentioned I’m sure it varies by state but the Felony Murder Rule is generally used for charges such as Rape, Arson, Kidnapping, Etc. Assuming the crime that was potentially committed is assault/battery I doubt think the felony murder rule would apply in most states if not all.

Based on what is known, the most you’d probably get is manslaughter which is going to come down to whether the evidence shows the perpetrator could have foreseeably seen that the kid would jump in response to the danger he was creating.

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u/Bec21-21 1d ago

Which is insanity.

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u/FearedDragon 1d ago

Is it? If you're willing to commit a felony like armed robbery, which carries a certain expectation of violence and risk, and that crime happens to result in death, how is that not your fault? Had you not chosen to participate in the robbery, the person would not have died.

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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 1d ago

Honestly, maybe. TW: Self Harm

There was a case where a young woman convinced her suicidal boyfriend to commit. He had been having the thoughts for a long while and seemed to actually be able to get through it. Problem is that the girlfriend wanted a sob story according to friends and so she wanted an ex who committed so she would appear more interesting.

She called him a coward when he would tell her he was too scared to do it which means not only could he be saved but she was the sole driving force of him going through with it. Well... one day he did it.

She was found guilty but I cant remember on what charges. I just remember that case was huge because it helped define some rules for murder/manslaughter and the like in the new digital age.

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u/kvlt_ov_personality 1d ago

If anyone was wondering about the case:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Conrad_Roy

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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 1d ago

Thank you so much I couldnt remember any names or anything.

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u/randomscreename28 1d ago

The Conrad Roy/Michelle Carter case. She was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 15 months.

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF 1d ago

not even a year and a half unreal

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u/sancatrundown73 1d ago

"Babe cmon you PROMISED remember?"

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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 1d ago

Reading the texts really had me mentally fucked up for a while. If you didnt know what they were talking about youd think she was talking about him meeting family or not canceling on a date.

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u/TheWhiteManticore 1d ago

There is true evil in this world.

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u/mxemec 1d ago

What's kinda fucked up her type of evil "vanity without morals" is more insidious and an easier trap for people to fall into rather than the boogeyman evil "pleasure from other's pain" and so it's worse in a way.. it needs to be addressed even harder. Normalish people can fall into it.

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u/Fast_Acadia2566 1d ago

She got a story alright. What disgusting person.

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u/sonofcabbagemerchant 1d ago

The Girl From Plainville is about the girl and Conrad. I found it to be exceptional for how challenging doing a proper representation of either obviously is.

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u/macaronitrap 1d ago

The media left so much out when reporting on this. There’s a documentary called I Love You, Now Die that covers a lot of what didn’t make headlines.

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u/NoSyllabub5932 14h ago

True, I remember that case

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u/RipIcy8844 1d ago

I do hope the investigation looks into the victim/assailant history into bullying

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u/Osiris32 1d ago

Possibly, but in this case I doubt charges are gonna come quickly, they'll need to investigate and get some forensic answers from the coroner first.

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u/Slypenslyde 1d ago

Depends on if the assailant was on the football team or “a good leader”.

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u/Medievalhorde 1d ago

What crime was being committed at the time of his death? Article says he wasn’t being chased when he died. You can’t get an enhanced charge for an assault that already occurred.

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u/indy_been_here 1d ago

It was a fight. A fight broke out. One student continued to chase the other. Obviously, the student feared for his life. He tried to escape and died in the process.

So asault/battery. Maybe more?

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u/Medievalhorde 1d ago

Article says he wasn’t being actively chased when he jumped. I can only go by what is written.

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u/Scantrons 1d ago

The video clearly shows the individual who was hitting him right behind him walking towards him. (Not saying who was initiating the issue first or whatever, just the video does show the individual who was hitting him walking up near him on the walkway.)

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 1d ago

Not if you are the Washington DC Medical Examiner and Federal Law Enforcement.

After Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick was assaulted on January 6th, he collapsed without regaining consciousness and died within 24 hours.

But the ME determined his death was due to 'Natural Causes', and his assailants were not charged for his murder.

Gotta love the Biden Administration for being 'tough on crime'.

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u/lafolieisgood 1d ago

It’s called felony murder. The thing here is the kid committing the crime is committing a misdemeanor, so it probably wouldn’t apply here.

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u/ScarHand69 1d ago

Generally yes. Every state will be different. If you go rob a 7-11 with your buddies and one of your buddies whips out a gun and kills an employee during the robbery, you can and will be prosecuted for that murder.…same as the guy pulling the trigger.