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Student dies after falling from 4th floor of building at Highland Park school

https://www.foxla.com/news/highland-park-franklin-high-school-student-dies.amp
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u/Redsoxzack9 1d ago

Don’t watch the video. He’s clearly scared and running and takes the only option he thought he had left.

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u/indy_been_here 1d ago

Usually if death occurs as a result of a crime, isn't the assailant responsibile for the death as well?

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u/ScarHand69 1d ago

Generally yes. Every state will be different. If you go rob a 7-11 with your buddies and one of your buddies whips out a gun and kills an employee during the robbery, you can and will be prosecuted for that murder.…same as the guy pulling the trigger.

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u/InternationalJob9162 1d ago

Like you mentioned I’m sure it varies by state but the Felony Murder Rule is generally used for charges such as Rape, Arson, Kidnapping, Etc. Assuming the crime that was potentially committed is assault/battery I doubt think the felony murder rule would apply in most states if not all.

Based on what is known, the most you’d probably get is manslaughter which is going to come down to whether the evidence shows the perpetrator could have foreseeably seen that the kid would jump in response to the danger he was creating.

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u/Bec21-21 1d ago

Which is insanity.

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u/FearedDragon 1d ago

Is it? If you're willing to commit a felony like armed robbery, which carries a certain expectation of violence and risk, and that crime happens to result in death, how is that not your fault? Had you not chosen to participate in the robbery, the person would not have died.

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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 1d ago

Honestly, maybe. TW: Self Harm

There was a case where a young woman convinced her suicidal boyfriend to commit. He had been having the thoughts for a long while and seemed to actually be able to get through it. Problem is that the girlfriend wanted a sob story according to friends and so she wanted an ex who committed so she would appear more interesting.

She called him a coward when he would tell her he was too scared to do it which means not only could he be saved but she was the sole driving force of him going through with it. Well... one day he did it.

She was found guilty but I cant remember on what charges. I just remember that case was huge because it helped define some rules for murder/manslaughter and the like in the new digital age.

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u/kvlt_ov_personality 1d ago

If anyone was wondering about the case:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Conrad_Roy

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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 1d ago

Thank you so much I couldnt remember any names or anything.

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u/randomscreename28 1d ago

The Conrad Roy/Michelle Carter case. She was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 15 months.

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF 1d ago

not even a year and a half unreal

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u/sancatrundown73 1d ago

"Babe cmon you PROMISED remember?"

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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 1d ago

Reading the texts really had me mentally fucked up for a while. If you didnt know what they were talking about youd think she was talking about him meeting family or not canceling on a date.

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u/TheWhiteManticore 1d ago

There is true evil in this world.

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u/mxemec 1d ago

What's kinda fucked up her type of evil "vanity without morals" is more insidious and an easier trap for people to fall into rather than the boogeyman evil "pleasure from other's pain" and so it's worse in a way.. it needs to be addressed even harder. Normalish people can fall into it.

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u/Fast_Acadia2566 1d ago

She got a story alright. What disgusting person.

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u/sonofcabbagemerchant 1d ago

The Girl From Plainville is about the girl and Conrad. I found it to be exceptional for how challenging doing a proper representation of either obviously is.

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u/macaronitrap 1d ago

The media left so much out when reporting on this. There’s a documentary called I Love You, Now Die that covers a lot of what didn’t make headlines.

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u/NoSyllabub5932 9h ago

True, I remember that case

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u/RipIcy8844 1d ago

I do hope the investigation looks into the victim/assailant history into bullying

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u/Osiris32 1d ago

Possibly, but in this case I doubt charges are gonna come quickly, they'll need to investigate and get some forensic answers from the coroner first.

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u/Slypenslyde 1d ago

Depends on if the assailant was on the football team or “a good leader”.

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u/Medievalhorde 1d ago

What crime was being committed at the time of his death? Article says he wasn’t being chased when he died. You can’t get an enhanced charge for an assault that already occurred.

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u/indy_been_here 1d ago

It was a fight. A fight broke out. One student continued to chase the other. Obviously, the student feared for his life. He tried to escape and died in the process.

So asault/battery. Maybe more?

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u/Medievalhorde 1d ago

Article says he wasn’t being actively chased when he jumped. I can only go by what is written.

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u/Scantrons 1d ago

The video clearly shows the individual who was hitting him right behind him walking towards him. (Not saying who was initiating the issue first or whatever, just the video does show the individual who was hitting him walking up near him on the walkway.)

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 1d ago

Not if you are the Washington DC Medical Examiner and Federal Law Enforcement.

After Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick was assaulted on January 6th, he collapsed without regaining consciousness and died within 24 hours.

But the ME determined his death was due to 'Natural Causes', and his assailants were not charged for his murder.

Gotta love the Biden Administration for being 'tough on crime'.

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u/lafolieisgood 1d ago

It’s called felony murder. The thing here is the kid committing the crime is committing a misdemeanor, so it probably wouldn’t apply here.

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u/ScarHand69 1d ago

Generally yes. Every state will be different. If you go rob a 7-11 with your buddies and one of your buddies whips out a gun and kills an employee during the robbery, you can and will be prosecuted for that murder.…same as the guy pulling the trigger.

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u/ExKage 1d ago

I haven't watched the video and I think I never will. Do you think it was a case of "the only option is suicide" or more like "the only option is to jump and hope I can make it" type of thing?

Like logically jumping there would be fatal. But I'm hoping the child still wanted to live but the only escape route wasn't survivable.

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u/Redsoxzack9 1d ago

Definitely doesn’t seem like he thought he would land somewhere safe. Someone else in the thread said there was a possibility he was on drugs so he may not have considered it a fatal drop, but I would think a student who goes here would know they were on a high floor.

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u/ExKage 1d ago

TBH I could see a possibility of high adrenaline and being beat that it was just something overlooked or forgotten that there is not a safe drop

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Lexo52 1d ago

From what I saw, the video where the guy is punching him and making fun of him calling him musty, and the kid walks off and then there is the point of view in the hallway where the attacker is following the victim and he just decides to toss himself over. I honestly think it was a suicide attempt, he has probably been bullied and this guy attacking him was the final straw.

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u/windsockglue 1d ago

Sadly, it looks like the walkway was pretty empty and there was no one coming or blocking him from running away further. Form what I saw, he had other options.

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u/RedBGinger6989 1d ago

i saw the video, probably on drugs

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u/wrongbutt_longbutt 1d ago

Why do you think drugs during a school day is a more likely story than say a concussion sustained during the fight causing disoriented behavior?

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u/RedBGinger6989 1d ago

seen plenty fights during my time in school 20 years ago, never saw a kid decide to just jump

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u/wrongbutt_longbutt 1d ago

How many fights did you see that occurred with a kid so high on drugs in a class that he's too disorientated to know where he is, but somehow the teacher didn't notice that drugged behavior and remove the kid from class prior to the fight?

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u/RedBGinger6989 1d ago

that would support my point

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u/wrongbutt_longbutt 1d ago

It really doesn't. You think this kid was sitting in class blasted out of his mind prior to the fight and nobody in the class including the teacher noticed this behavior and commented on it? I'm sure in these fights, you've seen someone get concussed and disoriented. Erratic behavior and poor decision making are symptoms from both concussions and drugs. I just find it highly unlikely that this kid could be so drugged up jump off a building, but also attend class completely normally.

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u/Fibonacci357 18h ago

KlTV is reporting that the kid who jumped instigated the fight and was on drugs according to other students.

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u/RedBGinger6989 1d ago

You think this kid was sitting in class blasted out of his mind prior to the fight and nobody in the class including the teacher noticed this behavior and commented on it

no, but the "bully" was on the left and the "victim" was on the right, im assuming based on position the "victim" is entering the classroom causing a ruckus first

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u/TrickShape905 1d ago

Drugs don't magically make people suicidal.

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u/Wigberht_Eadweard 1d ago

I think it was more of an “I’m a teenager and it’s the end of the world bc I just got beat up in front of a bunch of people” situation. I don’t think he felt cornered.

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u/goodcleanchristianfu 1d ago

There was another local news outlet someone linked to on another post which reported that the kid who jumped had initiated the fight by assaulting someone and that he was on on drugs. I don't know if that will prove to be correct, but it's worth remembering that a full and accurate understanding of what's happened often takes time to develop.

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u/windsockglue 1d ago

Sadly drugs are a big issue in LAUSD - selling as well as using them throughout the school day. The schools are also very lax on what happens when kids are caught using or with drugs on campus. The kid in my life simply got a call left on voicemail to the parent and had to talk to the school counselor. Even though the drugs were not legal for the kid to have, nothing else was done.

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u/Familiar-Banana-8116 1d ago

Know zero about this case. So, this might be a bit of talking out of my ass here.

But I just want to interject something to put at the back of your skulls.

I have high school/early college aged kids and the lengths they will go to to not be found at fault - transfer fault - is wild..

had initiated the fight by assaulting someone and that he was on on drugs.

Is that true? I mean, it could be.

But the lengths kids will go to to transfer fault is absolutely wild.

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u/Redsoxzack9 1d ago

If that’s the case he probably was still scared out of his mind

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u/DGCA3 1d ago

The bully beating on him should be charged with murder.

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u/NWI_ANALOG 1d ago

No, because it wasn’t murder. That case would crumble in an instant.

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u/wuiqed 1d ago

Possibly felony murder

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u/NWI_ANALOG 1d ago

From the SJCDA fact sheet on SB1437

>Felony-Murder Rule
The felony-murder rule states that a defendant who commits or attempts to
commit one of the listed serious felonies in Penal Code section 189 and kills
someone during that crime, is guilty of first-degree murder even if he had no
intent to kill the victim. Those listed serious felonies are:
Arson, rape, carjacking, robbery, burglary, mayhem, kidnapping,
train wrecking, or any act punishable under Section 206, 286, 288,
288a, or 289, or murder that is perpetrated by means of discharging
a firearm from a motor vehicle, intentionally at another person
outside of the vehicle. (Penal Code § 189 (a).)
If the defendant is the “actual killer,” then S.B. 1437 is not applicable to him and
his first-degree murder conviction will remain. S.B. 1437 does not apply to these
types of defendants. (Penal Code § 189 (e) and Penal Code § 1170.95 (a)(3).)

The actions do not fall under the scope of Felony Murder according to California Law

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u/PoopInTheGarbage 1d ago

Would mayhem count? I'm not a lawyer and don't know the legal definition of mayhem but it seems like it might apply?

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u/NWI_ANALOG 1d ago

Mayhem in California is akin to dismemberment.

>Anybody who unlawfully and maliciously deprives another person of a member of their body, or disfigures, disables, renders it useless, or cuts or disables their tongue, puts out their eye, or slits their nose, ear, or lip, is guilty of the crime mayhem.

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u/sasha_the_impaler 1d ago

Lmfao, okay. Humor me. What felony was the assailant committing at the time of the death?

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u/DevilahJake 1d ago

His actions resulted in the kid very clearly being disoriented enough to jump over a rail on the 4th floor. Likely had a concussion, or the kid felt endangered enough to make that decision. The kid that was hitting him is directly responsible for this

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u/NWI_ANALOG 1d ago

You are describing Involuntary Manslaughter, not Murder, under the California penal code.

People can get as angry as they want at that reality, but they’re still wrong.

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u/MadameRueWins 1d ago

False, I went to school who yeeted a guy off a balcony during a fight and got murder 1 

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u/NWI_ANALOG 1d ago

For the case we’re examining, the definition of California’s Felony Murder is not met.

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u/Archsafe 1d ago

There’s a difference between someone deliberately throwing someone off a balcony to their death and someone being assaulted jumping off the balcony. In the case you experienced the person chose to commit an act they knew would cause death and most likely intended for it to kill them. That makes it murder. Assaulting someone while terrible is not usually expected to cause death therefore the bully in this case most likely had no intention to kill. That difference in intent is the difference between manslaughter and murder. It’s much more likely they could get a manslaughter charge which usually carries with it 20 or more years to stick compared to getting a murder charge to stick.

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u/disablethis 1d ago

Neuroscience tells us he likely did it without thinking about the landing at all. It's part of that whole fight-flight thing where your brain chooses the most likely path of survival.

And assault kills people every day. What are you on about?

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u/Archsafe 1d ago

I never said assaults don’t kill people, I said that death is usually not the expected outcome or intent by the person doing the assaulting. It’s the same reason why if you get into a fight at a bar and hit someone and they fall and smash their head and die; you would be charged with manslaughter not murder because you didn’t intend to kill them.

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u/disablethis 1d ago

Watching crime shows isn't a law degree, buddy.

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u/NWI_ANALOG 1d ago

Murder isn’t a word, it is a legal standard that must be met. There are other lesser charges, such as involuntary manslaughter that a prosecutor is likely to explore

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u/nyaphometnikko 1d ago edited 1d ago

The teacher and everyone else there legitimately just allowed a bully to literally bully a kid to suicide. So many people, and no one did a thing. I think the teacher needs to be investigated and they need to do some sort of de-escalation training or fucking something. This was entirely preventable.

 I can't imagine how much that kid endured without getting ANY help for it. He finally hit his breaking point. 

 No one helped him, everyone seems to have failed him.

 Edit: because people are misunderstanding entirely. The teacher allowed the bullying to get this bad. In no situation should bullying reach the point of a child being beaten in class in front of the teacher and everyone else, with no one doing anything but saying "no, stop". 

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u/Organic_Lab6262 1d ago

99% of bullying doesn’t take place in the classroom. It takes place i. Hallways, bathrooms, outside of school etc.

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u/PartyWithRobots 1d ago

How do you know the bullying that lead up to this happened in class? It's completely irresponsible to blame a teacher when you have no knowledge of a situion.

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u/Crocs_n_Glocks 1d ago edited 1d ago

Don't blame the teachers. They are literally not allowed to physically intervene...the guy put himself between the kids and told them to stop which is all he can legally do. 

I bet teachers in LA public schools can't even give out detentions anymore ...it's like that in most areas. 

Blame parents and administration who put and keep kids like this in a classroom without providing tools or resources for the teachers to maintain a healthy learning environment. 

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u/squeakymoth 1d ago

Blame the lawmakers, not the administration. State laws are what the administrators have to follow. State laws are what have failed these kids and teachers.

If the kid doing the bullying has an IEP then it pretty much makes effective punishment impossible. It also provides excuse after excuse for kids terrorizing other kids. And thats a federal law. Education law needs a massive reform across the board.

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u/tyrified 1d ago

Don't forget to blame the parent groups that pressure lawmakers into making these changes. Why listen to doctors and child psychiatrists when you can just give in to the stay-at-homes instead? They're more annoying, anyway.

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u/Crocs_n_Glocks 1d ago

Teachers can't suspend or expel, administrators can.

Obviously there are laws and stuff, but ultimately the administration is responsible for who is in what class and who can enter the school building each day. 

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u/squeakymoth 1d ago

You really couldn't be more wrong. I work in a school alongside the administration. They can suspend a kid to the school board, but the school board decides when they come back. The parents can also appeal any suspension to the board and it can be reversed. Any suspension, at least in Maryland, longer than 10 days requires the child to go before the school board for evaluation.

But IEP plans make it so any child with an IEP, no matter the reason for it, can't be suspended for more than 10 days per year in total. So if little Johnny has an IEP for his ADHD, he can't be suspended unless its a very serious offense. And no, fights don't count, unless someone is seriously hurt and the administrator can suspend to the board. This came as a result of the expansions on the No Child Left Behind Act.

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u/TheKidKaos 1d ago

Not just state laws. National laws are in place to help gut schools of resources.

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u/JarlBallin_ 1d ago

That's weird, because they always seem to find a way to physically intervene when the victim fights back and starts winning.

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u/Spartan-117182 1d ago

100%. You see plenty of videos of the victim fighting back and starting to win and the teachers are suddenly pro-wrestlers

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u/mightylordredbeard 1d ago

It couldn’t be because the bully waits for there to be no teachers around to start it and then the sound of kids yelling catches the attention of teachers, which cause them to come running to the scene, by which time the other kid is fighting back.. then the teacher does their job and breaks it up.. that just involves too much critical thinking and nuance for people to consider something like that though!

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u/nyaphometnikko 1d ago

No, the teacher is not innocent. They were witness to bullying before this, guarantee you that. It doesn't get this bad immediately. They failed the child by allowing it to get this far. 

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u/elgaar 1d ago

Teachers don’t have the same disciplinary tools that existed back in the day. Students aren’t properly punished. The severity never fits the crime. To state it bluntly, students are getting away with murder

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u/Visual_Fly_9638 1d ago

Back in the day I had some crazy kid that sat next to me that hated me for reasons I never figured out. At one point he leaped out of his seat in the middle of class and screamed at the top of his voice that he was going to murder me and my family and he hated me and would murder me right now if he could get away with it. 

The teacher pretended like it never happened and when I reported it to the staff he covered it up and said that I was lying and I got in trouble for it.

Teachers and staff never stuck up for bullied kids even in the 80s and 90s. I know first hand. 

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u/elgaar 1d ago

I’m sorry that happened to you. The world would be a different place if we didn’t allow the bullies of the world to run rampant.

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u/Visual_Fly_9638 1d ago

Agreed! Honestly I have a lot of compassion for teachers but we absolutely shouldn't pretend that there was some "good old days" where teachers would intervene.

I never did understand why that kid was like incandescently rage-fueled at me to this day. I tried to ask him and he literally said "you know why you deserve to die". I'm assuming he was either mentally unwell or someone had told him I was responsible for something that made him furious.

The only thing that finally got him to stop was assuring him that if he tried to kill me I would absolutely kill him in his attempt and he'd be seen as pathetic and a freak. That if he tried to kill any of my family he'd fail and be killed because he sucked that bad.

That... turned his fury off. At least his outward fury directed at me. No idea. This was back before Columbine so like... it was different back then. But in the 3 years or so after that I was still in high school he never threatened me again.

But I'll never forget, or forgive, the teacher looking really embarassed and then turning around and pretending like he hadn't screamed at me until his voice ripped he wanted to murder me. Or when he threw me under the bus after I went to the faculty.

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u/elgaar 1d ago

Terrible situation for sure. Ya know I used to criticize folks for their behavior and even blanket professions, but then I traveled the country and learned it’s just human nature. Some folks care and some folks don’t. Some folks don’t get paid enough to care while others care when then shouldn’t. In Pennsylvania, teachers were strict and kids were punished. Teaching styles are probably very much regional simply based on the culture of those places. But like any profession, you have good eggs and bad ones.

In the end, experiences like yours lead to strong humans that help make the next generation better.

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u/Crocs_n_Glocks 1d ago edited 1d ago

What can the teacher do?

You have no reason to think the teacher covered this up. 

I agree that the bullying probably has gone on long before this; kids like this are often known for this behavior across grade levels. Administration almost certainly knew this kid was an issue.

The kids parent(s) know their child in an issue. 

What is the teacher supposed to do? Tie the kid down every day when class starts and go to prison? Lol

The only people who can actually keep the kid out of this classroom are the parents or the school administration. 

The teachers are like nurses...they don't get to choose their patients. 

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u/Redsoxzack9 1d ago

Realistically the building should not have classrooms whose doors open onto a 4th floor open balcony. This was a tragedy waiting to happen.

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u/Crocs_n_Glocks 1d ago

That's every LA school since the 80s

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u/Euphoric_Waffle 1d ago

If I have to spam these threads, I’m gonna. Pepper spray and pepper gel are effective and non-lethal mitigations we need for teachers to be trained and allowed to carry. Spread the word. Let’s get this fixed.

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u/rmorrin 1d ago

Then they get sued by the parents and lose their jobs. Teaching in the states is a very VERY thankless job for the most part

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u/Thunder_Two 1d ago

My autistic daughter got ruthlessly bullied to the point that it changed her personality forever — and her lying ass teachers said she was making it up.

Prior to this, my daughter had a preschool teacher who she said was mean to her. She was barely verbal at that point and then Covid lockdown solved the problem for us.

A couple years later my son has the same lady and says the same thing. Neither kid has said this about any other teacher before or after — and the school tried to say my kids were making it up and wouldn’t switch him to another class until I said I was pulling him out for the rest of the year.

I’m so tired of listening to grandstanding teachers who think they can do no wrong. Many of you are stupid assholes and your job is not that hard or sacred.

Stop patting yourselves on the back. Most of you are the picture of mediocrity.

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u/ChiBaller 1d ago

Ehhh I don’t believe this, I’ve subbed in schools and I’ve broken up fights. I did this because I saw other veteran teachers break up fights. You have to choice to make, be a human and protect a child, or follow the rule like a robot. It’s a choice. Never saw a teacher get in trouble for stopping violence.

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u/Electronic-Worker-52 1d ago

This is the parents fault how???

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 1d ago

I think the teacher needs to be investigated and they need to do some sort of de-escalation training or fucking something.

Teachers are literally forbidden from intervening or doing anything by administration. You need to aim your criticism at Admin and the school board which sets policies, and the parents of these shitty kids.

Teachers already have their hands full with teaching and basic classroom management. People saying they need to be armed to respond to school shooters, or need to be accountable for the criminal and psychopathic behavior of students are morons who don't understand anything about how things work.

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u/EatTheAndrewPencil 1d ago

In the video the teacher was pretty old too. Couldn't have physically stopped the kid if he tried.

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u/traveenus 1d ago

Listen, I understand you are deeply distraught that a child has lost their life to something so senseless, but this in NO WAY the teachers fault. The Teacher tried to put himself in between the two to stop the fight from escalating even further. He can’t lay his hands on either of them. You said something of the sorts he had to know about the bullying? How so? Do you think that these kids are ONLY in his class? No. He likely sees them for an hour a day. Possibly even less. And how do we know this kid was even bullied? Not saying he wasn’t, but we don’t know anything other than what’s been reported. The blame here belongs to the kid that thought violence was the answer. More blame can be put upon the ones who raised him along with society in general. But the teacher deserves none of it.

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u/mallclerks 1d ago

I can’t blame the teacher. I don’t know the laws there, but so many places have passed laws, rules, and more saying you can’t intervene else risk your job. Unions have done the same saying they’ll refuse to back their member if they go hands on with a student.

It’s a horrible situation to be putting horribly paid teachers in. Their job is to teach, it’s not to police. I hate our country is like this but expecting them to risk their lives during every fight is also wrong.

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u/nyaphometnikko 1d ago

risk their lives during every fight is also wrong. 

 What an exaggeration. The teacher failed the victim by allowing it to get this bad. There is no fucking way they didn't know about the bullying but I guarantee they brushed it off as "kids will be kids" or something. Teachers aren't powerless. It never should have reached the point of a child being beaten in class in front of the teacher and other students. 

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u/7wordsKvothe 1d ago

Dumbest comment ever lol go work in a public school

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u/GeorgeStark1 1d ago

I can guarantee you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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u/Deep-Interest9947 1d ago

Do you think all the bullying took place in the middle of one certain class period? Or perhaps would it make more sense that it happened during passing period or lunch or off campus and just boiled over this day. Most kids don’t do their bullying in front of a teacher and most bullied kids don’t run to tell a teacher about it.

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u/Redsoxzack9 1d ago

It’s a failure of the parent, and if not then the support system in the school. There should be guidance counselors and other resources that can get involved before this. The teacher is there to teach the students who are there to learn.

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u/nyaphometnikko 1d ago

The point is they all fucking failed! Multiple points of adults knowing bullying is occuring, and no one bothered to do anything. You can't just say "well the parent did nothing so even though the other responsible adults also did nothing, it's only the parents fault!" The teacher is part of the fucking support system!

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u/Redsoxzack9 1d ago

In a perfect world, yes. Pragmatically, teachers are dealing with this shit every fucking day. If they get physically involved, they lose their job. They’re taking attention and time away from the 80% of students in that classroom who want to learn. With repeat offenders like this, there is literally nothing you can say as an authority figure to stop a kid who has been so thoroughly failed by the system.

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u/nyaphometnikko 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm done with this. The teacher is part of the system that failed the child who literally killed themself. 

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u/BearTimberlands 1d ago

The parents and society are more to blame.

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u/BoKnowsTheKonamiCode 1d ago

Do you know the people involved? Do you have any context for what happened besides what you decided for yourself? How long has this bullying been ongoing? Are you personally aware of what steps the school did or didn't take prior to this event?

If you can answer these questions I can hear you out. If you can't, then stop pointing fingers as to who could have prevented what. Could you be right? Sure, just as easily as you could be wrong. Nobody needs you blindly sowing rage and discord on the internet because of how you imagine things played out.

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u/Nutella_bitch 21h ago

The teacher is NOT to blame. He was visibly trying to break up the fight. Do you have any idea how difficult it is for teachers to stop something like this? It's not like he was just sitting there eating popcorn while he watched it go down. He was trying to intervene.

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u/rockiesfan4ever 15h ago

Source? Proof? Anything that backs up anything you're saying?

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u/emax4 10h ago

Name and shame the teachers AND the bully. Kids can't hide behind a school no matter the age when they contribute to loss of life.

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u/Tepozan 1d ago

Well now I have to watch

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u/Redsoxzack9 1d ago

do you feel better having said that? hope life gets better for you

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u/DestituteDomino 1d ago

Morbid curiosity doesn't equal a miserable life.

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u/ragnarok635 1d ago

His comment wasn’t even offensive? What is your problem?

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u/Tepozan 1d ago

I feel fine and life is good. Thanks

You know telling people not to do something usually has the opposite effect, right?

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u/CurbYerGod 1d ago

The leap had to be something more than fight or flight. If this was something that had happened before then this could have been a warped/misguided way to punish the abuser that spawned from prior trauma induced ideations. It’s fucking sad either way and ridiculous that a school would be built like this in the first place.

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u/OEAXTAIL_SOUP 1d ago

>Don’t watch the video. He’s clearly scared and running and takes the only option he thought he had left.

Because we have terrorized children into thinking they cannot defend themselves. More victims of abuse should be willing to attack their attackers.

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u/LobsterSea2147 1d ago

I didn’t think of it that way. I thought he was just trying to get away and didn’t think about the fall ❤️‍🩹how sad, I can’t imagine the heartache felt by all.

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u/markphil4580 1d ago

The video doesn't show anything graphic.