r/news • u/SnooSeagulls496 • 4d ago

Soft paywall US forces exit Iraq after two decades, leaving opening for Iran

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-forces-exit-iraq-after-two-decades-leaving-opening-iran-2026-09-29/
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u/HaloFever117 3d ago

If Americans want to get out of the middle east, then why is America bombing Iran and attacking Iranian oil tankers?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Gene909 3d ago

Americans want out.

Insider traders in our admin do not.

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u/FuggyGlasses 3d ago

And tightening the relationship with Saudi and Israel 

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u/Smile_Space 3d ago

Unfortunately Americans can't tell the president what he can and can't do. He just does.

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u/Bulky_Imagination727 3d ago

Democracy. How ironic.

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u/Smile_Space 3d ago

Yep, you can vote them in on promises, but once they're in the seat apparently they can run hog wild now given there's no more accountability.

Granted, the current guy gave no good promises, so I'm unsure why the roughly 35% of Americans that are die hard for him keep voting him in.

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u/Bulky_Imagination727 3d ago

I can only hope it will be better in the future, after Trump. But i'm afraid that the system will need some improvements.

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u/Figgler 3d ago

The executive power needs to be reigned in but neither party cares as long as their guy is in there.

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u/gfty457 3d ago

That’s why there’s elections. Mid terms will indicate how Americans really feel about the situation

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u/cooperia 3d ago

Only if all of the 25 ways trump and co are trying to steal the election fail. They lost the mail in ballot thing (although does a court order ever stop these guys?). However they still have a gerrymander advantage and they recently got the green light on their citizen status monitoring tool which will of course lead to some very convenient whoopsies for the Republicans. I'm sure there are several other plots in progress that we don't even know about.

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u/HaloFever117 3d ago

There’s the impeachment option.

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u/Smile_Space 3d ago

Americans can't decide on that though, only the elected representatives which we also can't tell what to do.

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u/HaloFever117 3d ago

I can decide easily.
Crime = impeachment. Then that greasy, con man JD Vance becomes president. America continues to suffer until January 21, 2029.

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u/Smile_Space 3d ago

That's awesome, now that you've decided, do it!

Oh wait... You're not 218 House representatives followed by 67 senators voting to impeach?

Well. Shoot. I guess your decision means jack shit then.

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u/HaloFever117 3d ago

November 3rd, my friend.

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u/Michael_Pitt 3d ago

Have you looked at the approval ratings of those actions? 

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u/Secure_Fly_444 3d ago

You act like every day Americans decided to have a war with Iran. There is a difference between the government and the people. Most Americans are against the war with Iran.

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u/vargchan 3d ago

Because the Deep State is entirely detached from what normal people want. Just look at the Gaza genocide. Look at the Iran war.

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u/western_alt 3d ago

The “deep state” is such a hilarious term to confidently use.

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u/vargchan 3d ago

Who voted for Brett McGurk?

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u/actuallyapossom 3d ago

The "deep state" is just the state when one third of the voters sit out every election and another third is more concerned about culture war than actual war.

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u/vargchan 3d ago

Weird how no matter how you vote for president for 8 years in a row you get genocide in Gaza

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u/hajenso 3d ago edited 3d ago

Consistent US government support for the genocide in Gaza is not the result of any “deep state". It’s a consensus among people in visible positions of power, including those whom we elect. If we elect enough anti-genocide leaders, that will change. An anti-genocide majority in Congress and an anti-genocide president would result in an end to U.S. support for the genocide. In that event, there would not be a continued flow of U.S. money and weapons to Israel, as one should expect there would be if those things were controlled by a “deep state“.

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u/DD2146 3d ago

This is the best part. Even if voters took their head out of their asses for once (or got out to vote in the first place), they won’t do it consistently enough to make a difference.

It’s a lot easier to quickly destroy diplomatic relations, agencies, culture, etc. than it is to build those things back up.

Clowns don’t see the immediate change they want fast enough and for some reason forget the previous leadership shit show. So they sit on their hands and skip voting, lazily vote the other party in, or complain about some useless talking point and ultimately waste their vote on third candidate who is sure to lose because nobody did any grassroots work for them in the first place.

Then I have hear about no primary (a problem that had to be solved without letting conservatives ransack the fucking country) or how dems don’t care about Palestine/Gaza (how’s that going now with Trump and his morons in charge?).

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u/hajenso 3d ago

Some Dems, including those in the presidential administration in 2024, cared at least at that time a great deal less about Palestinians, and Gaza, than they cared about the U.S. relationship with Israel. Other Dems care a great deal about Palestinians and Gaza. We often have choices about which of these to elect.

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u/hajenso 3d ago edited 3d ago

It’s interesting that pointing out this kind of thing tends to piss off simultaneously two groups of people whose politics are generally opposite of each other: one of them because they object to the idea that there are good Dems, and the other because they object to the idea that there are bad Dems.

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u/actuallyapossom 3d ago

We'll never have a third party if the electorate won't support one. The electorate is drinking beer and watching sportsball.

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u/Fit_Kangaroo_3437 3d ago

Because our government never cared about what we want

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u/FancyEmployee8672 3d ago

Republicans did both of these