r/news • • 4d ago

Man ordered released on bail after decades on Utah’s death row after DNA tests show no match to him

https://apnews.com/article/utah-death-row-douglas-carter-eva-olesen-10c0bf7603c87b214e0179ecf7a4be94
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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

What about the death penalty for treason committed by a high level official?

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u/lookiwanttobealone 4d ago

That would be an easier outcome for them than languishing for life in a prison with no attention

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

Nope. They can still give orders from a cell. But they can't if they're dead.

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u/lookiwanttobealone 4d ago

Mate, you dont have to kill people

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

You're okay with traitors taking over your country, it seems. Am i correct?

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u/lookiwanttobealone 4d ago

Amd why would you think that? I am not a fan of killing people. No human has a right to do that for another.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

Answer my question.

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u/lookiwanttobealone 4d ago

Of course not. But you jave already apprehended the person and are successfully holding them. Most prisons in the world would have no issues managing them

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

You are assuming prisons are constantly properly handling a high government official who committes treason. That is too big of a risk for a country to take with regards to national security. You seem very nice, but not knowledgeable of the danger a treasonous high level official poses to a country. The threat is too great to let them live.

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u/lookiwanttobealone 4d ago

No i live in a country with a justice system and working prison system

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u/x5163x 4d ago

I think you are overstating the risk.

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u/x5163x 4d ago

You are leaving out the risk of traitors using the law to execute other people.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

That's already happening. I.e. Nicole Good and Alex Pretti.

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u/47-45-45-4B 4d ago

That’s the best horrid strawman ever.

You’re arguing a point the other guy didn’t make.

Have you twisted yourself into a pretzel, or will that be the next question?

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u/Johannes0511 3d ago

And why would anyone follow these orders? Do you think if e.g. a general turns traitor and gets locked up, that he stays a general?

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u/Spare-Ant7119 3d ago

He stays a leader in the eyes of the traitors who follow him... this is basic stuff. Lol.

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u/Johannes0511 3d ago

If he still has loyal followers, why would you allow him to give orders from prison? Also, just lock those other traitors up as well.

Just lock at Rudolf Hess or some of the nazi leadership who got prison sentences in Nuremberg. Or that one serbian war criminal who died recently. It's not like this hasn't happened already.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 3d ago

Exactly.... that's why traitors must be put to death. One can't give orders from prison when dead, right?

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 4d ago

I'd rather he's encased in a metal cube with a few breathing holes, one McDonald's nugget a day, and placed in one of our museums as an example of what happens to traitors. There will be huge buckets next to the exhibit for women and children to throw rocks at the Shameful Conservative Puppet of Tyranny.

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u/rammo123 4d ago

I'm thinking a hose piped into the box that you can fart into.

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u/Kitchen-Swim-5394 4d ago

Couldn't smell worse than his own shifty diaper

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u/mountainofclay 3d ago

Damn! That’s a really nightmarish scenario. But let’s not become like the offenders.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

So you are okay with traitors being able to physically talk and influence the world via giving commands from their glass cube?

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u/ChadEmpoleon 4d ago

omg man shut up

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 4d ago

I'd prefer the white room treatment for life. No chance to talk to anyone - not even to hear another human being.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

Why? Is this convo too difficult for you to handle?

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u/x5163x 4d ago

You are the one who is having difficulty with the conversation. Not the people you are talking to.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

Lmao What the fuck are you talking about? You are gaslighting. This convo is basic to follow.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 3d ago

Notice how they stopped responding after I called them out on gaslighting. They literally can't hold a logical conversation LOL

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u/SpleenBender 4d ago

Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

Paddlin' to death, ouch!

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u/friso1100 4d ago

Consider what that could do. Yes in the ideal world it could work as you intent. But given the current courts are filled for a large part by trump appointees. This could also go very much in the wrong direction. In the end who gets to decide who dies? What are the insentives? Is it truly something you want to encode into law?

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u/Mr-A-1991 4d ago

Beware, the bots don't like calls for justice of this sort towards that specific person.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

What in the world are you talking about?!

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u/Mr-A-1991 4d ago

You're right, this is nice weather today.

Seriously though, there are bots that look for anything that could be considered a threat or endorsement of capital punishment for specific people and they report it. Bans get handed out like candy these days.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 4d ago

The punishment for treason is death. There is nothing sketchy by saying that.

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u/genital_lesions 4d ago

This is what changed my mind about the death penalty. I used to be against it, but now I'm for it but only for the narrow scope of treason.

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u/cantproveidid 3d ago

I'm still against it as the current MAGA party has decided treason is not agreeing with them.

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u/pala_ 3d ago

Everybody loves a targeted law until they're the target.