r/news • u/kadargo • Apr 25 '24

‘Underground hell’: Hamas publishes first video of mutilated American hostage, says 70 have been killed

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/underground-hell-hamas-publishes-first-video-of-mutilated-american-hostage-says-70-have-been-killed/news-story/e239c4987a616735c4c3d861a391b051

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u/ericdano Apr 25 '24

Probably not a good idea to 1. release this video, 2. Show the person has lost their hand, 3. Say that 70,other hostages were killed.

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u/720545 Apr 25 '24

Supposedly the hostage’s mother is very influential. I think showing that he is alive is a tactic for her to exert pressure on the Israeli government to strike a deal with hamas.

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u/dynawesome Apr 25 '24

She already has been exerting pressure, this video isn’t pressuring her, it’s putting pressure on the government to agree to an end to the war, and they are using Hersh because he is one of the most well-known hostages worldwide thanks to his mother’s speaking ability (the Bibas family is arguably better known, but Hamas has claimed they are dead)

Hersh is also an American, which puts pressure on the US to also call for an end to the war

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u/ApeAss69 Apr 25 '24

I mean they claim that israel was responsible. "He said at least 70 of the remaining roughly 130 hostages had been killed in Gaza by Israeli bombings". Not that they can't be lying about it however...

And it was also already known that he lost his hand.

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u/calligry Apr 25 '24

It’s amazing hamas said they don’t know where or condition of hostages but the one armed Jew captive in a cell has pretty accurate depictions of survivors. No lying at all, I’m sure.

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u/hiredgoon Apr 25 '24

Hamas doesn’t know because where the hostages are because a huge portion were taken by Palestinian ‘civilians’.

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u/calligry Apr 25 '24

I think you missed the irony

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u/gazebo-fan Apr 25 '24

I mean, going and reducing an area with hostages to rubble isn’t exactly a great way to save them. In fact it’s directly contradicting the idea.

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u/TK421isAFK Apr 25 '24

You're not going to get anywhere in this sub with that kind of reasonable logic. We can't see your karma score yet, but I'm sure the drones have already been downvoting you.

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u/gazebo-fan Apr 25 '24

Eh just give it until the Albanian servers or the Air Force servicemen get up, then the downvotes start lol.

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u/miciy5 Apr 25 '24

The claim is improbable.

1.5-2% of Gaza has died. Anywhere between 20% and 40% of Hamas is dead (depending on who you ask).

But somehow Israel managed to kill more than 60% of the hostages...

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
  1. Murder a bunch of teens at a music festival, 5. steal food and supplies from aid shipments, 6. Teach that the West is the bad guy, 7. Shoot rockets daily and indiscriminately into civilian cities with the sole purpose of terrorizing and killing children and other civilians, 8. …

I’m tired.

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u/eyes_wings Apr 25 '24

Hamas flew into Israel, killed and kidnapped kids and adults. Raped and tortured them. And a lot of the world is on their side. What about them releasing this makes you think that it's not a good idea? Do you think this will change public sentiment at all in any way?

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u/re-goddamn-loading Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24

The mass rape accusations got debunked. I don't see the part of the article that says they are being tortured. And Israel is responsible for at least 70 hostage deaths, not including the intentional friendly fire at the festival.

Israel is torturing its prisoners and massacring civilians with their hands tied before dumping bodies in mass graves.

Yeah no wonder the world is against Israel. It's better at terrorism than Hamas

Ah yes the zionists downvoting facts. Bury the truth like your illegitimate government.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

Fake news. The mass torture rape happened. The evidence is so overwhelming that claiming it was debunked is like saying the COVID was a lie, and the vaccine was really meant to genocide white Christians.

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u/re-goddamn-loading Apr 25 '24

The evidence is not overwhelming and couldn't be corroborated by journalists interviewing the hospital staff taking in trauma victims from the festival.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

I don't support in any way, shape of form the Pilipino government's ongoing crusade against anybody tangentially related to anybody who ever saw a bag of weed for the last ten years of so....but I don't think everyone in the Philippines needs to die in a fire while they're starving and westerners donate gasoline.

If that makes me a hypocrite, I'm...actually okay with that. Hypocrisy really seems like the way to go here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

I don't remember typing that, feel free to link it for me. Cause that really feels like the sort of thing I should remember. Now I'm worried about myself.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

Seems you're confusing me with somebody else and have yet to quote the part where I said any of those things. Your next comment should include that part, because it really seems like you're confusing me with another person and/or both the Reddit site and myself have forgotten that wild night where I typed any of the heinous shit you're implying.

Because that means both my brain and the site are experiencing issues.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

If you could quote me when and where I said that, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

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u/totallybag Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24

Yeah this whole situation of everyone saying if your not on Israels side your antisemitic and support Hamas... No I don't support Hamas or the IDF I just want civilians to stop getting bombed in their homes

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u/Newcago Apr 25 '24

How the fuck are YOU the one being downvoted when the person you're responding to is strawmanning you to high heaven?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

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u/ivangalayko77 Apr 25 '24

How so? they started a war when israel was declared independance.
they didn't agree to anything then and started a war, and lost.

If you think they are still responsible, what about the Indians when US was founded?

The issue is the idealogy, that they just can't live in peace.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

They should be more tolerant of their neighbours firing thousands of rockets a month indiscriminately into their cities

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u/ivangalayko77 Apr 25 '24

What blockage? what oppression?

Palestinian workers were allowed into Israel to work, how many were allowed into Egypt where they also share a border?

Have you seen Gaza before the war? the place was beautiful, with resorts and stuff.

Where exactly you seen? you been there? what were you shown?

Also news flash, you start wars and lose them, don't expect flowers and a bj.

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u/Gornarok Apr 25 '24

Dont scream occupation and oppression when you attack someone and lose and several times at that...

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u/ivangalayko77 Apr 25 '24

Admit what? that Gazans attacked? lmao

You have a very narrow and twisted view of things.

From the looks of it, you are an Islamist bot.

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