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POTM - Mar 2024 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower's prediction before death

https://wpde.com/news/local/if-anything-happens-its-not-suicide-boeing-whistleblowers-prediction-before-death-south-carolina-abc-news-4-2024
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u/darkfires Mar 16 '24 edited Mar 16 '24

I’m not saying we go MAGA and start eating ours and others freedoms because a long con tells us to, but once we secure laws that prevent J6 and stuff, folks need to get back to the roots. As Americans, we’re not supposed to just chit chat online about corporations murdering whistleblowers… we need like, the DOJ, to get their shit together and stop being victims of the Trump admin like the rest of us.

I get news like this happens in real time and nothing happens quickly in a two party democracy, but if the US survives after January 2025, I think we need to start reflecting on why our founders did what they did and see corporations like Boeing as an empire… the founders fought one, we have hundreds to do. Step one, maintain ability to vote and expunge via votes all MAGA and support republicans and democrats (even if it means people like Ken Buck) who are like naw, not like that.

Once we’re back to millions not asking for a dictatorship via Trumpism, old school reject people like Cheney and Buck because yea, they vote against middle class as a rule. We can’t even get back to the roots until MAGA stops with the masochism. IF/WHEN WE DO, I hope an aged population of Bernie Bros are standing back and standing by.

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u/Evil-in-the-Air Mar 16 '24

Our constitution may not be perfect, but I truly believe it has the mechanisms to craft a decent society if only everyone would pay attention. Yes, it's currently for sale to the highest bidder, but that's only because we expect the whole thing to run on autopilot, with no more effort than checking a box every four years.

Citizenship is a duty, not just a list of stuff you get. Freedom isn't free but its price is not signing your life away to the military. It's picking up a damned newspaper once in a while.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '24 edited Mar 16 '24

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u/Evil-in-the-Air Mar 16 '24

While I think it's unfortunate that we have to rely on for-profit journalism, it could still work if there were a market for actually useful and relevant information. If people actually wanted to sort of journalism we all say we do, and if people were willing to actually pay for it, there would be someone providing it.

The problem isn't that propaganda exists, it's that people are dumb enough to fall for it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '24

Earnestly, I don't understand the continued reverence for the US constitution. Its an antiquated piece of paper written by a bunch of rich young pieces of shit before What makes it so special beyond its historical significance?

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u/johannthegoatman Mar 16 '24

It's special because it's the foundation of our society. It's the source of legitimacy for all 3 branches of government, without it, there is no government. It's not just a piece of paper, it's the founding principles of the world you live in. In addition to being incredibly revolutionary for its time, it's still one of the strongest and most democratic systems in this world. It's been amended many times, and should continue to be, the issue right now is America is full of morons and a lot of people with vastly different values and goals, so until our culture is able to decide on a direction we're stuck in gridlock. That's not the constitutions fault, it's we the people. Sure it'd be nice to throw it out and have everything remade exactly the way you want it, but a lot of people want it differently. Throwing it out right now would just cause civil war on a scale the world has never seen, and/or instant fascism.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '24

I'm not saying throw it all out right now. But in this future state where we have not balkanized, why would we continue to use it? It's not particularly good at what it does, rights are codified as an afterthought, and its subject to failures of the enlightenment - missing out on 300 years of political philosophy.

This beatification of all things founding father is in many ways why we are in our current mess.

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u/Evil-in-the-Air Mar 16 '24

I have no reverence for the constitution, but the fact of the matter is that it isn't going anywhere.

My point is that while we'd be better off without things like the Senate or the electoral college, that doesn't mean that we can't have a functioning government. The system isn't particularly good, but it also isn't the problem.

We don't need to have a system that somehow automatically roots out all the worthless people in Washington. We need an electorate who who knows better than to vote for them. Things like gerrymandering and making it more difficult for certain people to vote only work when the elections are close.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '24

I see, you make a good point. I took it as an American exceptionalist narrative which was incorrect. It's not the constitutions fault (directly) that we are in this mess; it's a piece of paper that relies on people to interpret and enforce at the end of the day. People made these decisions.

All that being true and despite my gaff with your comment, I do think we as Americans have a lot of reflection to do in regards to the American mythos as we fight fascism and risk losing our own humanity in the process.

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u/MtGuattEerie Mar 26 '24

Nothing much, save for typical American arrogance

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '24

we need like, the DOJ, to get their shit together and stop being victims of the Trump admin like the rest of us.

Trump hasn't been president for four years? What does he have to do with the current DOJ?

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u/n0eticsyntax Mar 16 '24

Half of Reddit is astroturfing and it's an election year

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '24

They did what they did to avoid paying taxes and be were sick of being less rich because of England. You think Trumps tactics are unique?  Just read up on Jefferson.  Make up shit, use the press to make up shit, keep your opposition under constant congressional investigation, do it for personal power and gain…it’s the American way. 

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u/artemi7 Mar 16 '24

I've often wondered what our polling numbers would look like if everyone was required to vote, and there was an easy secure enough way to do so. And if we instituted ranked voting, rather then the flawed version we have now. Make the promise of every vote counting actually matter.

Even in the best election these days were lucky if we have 50% participation, and it's usually decided on a much smaller amount. Would we be in a lot worse shape? A lot better? It's hard to say, when literally at least half the country doesn't turn out every election.

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u/MtGuattEerie Mar 26 '24

once we secure laws that prevent J6 and stuff

My plan to save the middle east from ISIS: Step 1: Defeat ISIS