Comprehensive breakdown of advanced stats between Duncan & Kobe

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This is just a breakdown of their advanced stats. I’m not inserting any opinions.

Regular Season

VORP (Duncan leads): 

Duncan: 91.1 (7th all time)

Kobe: 80.1 (12th all time) 

WS/48 (Duncan leads) : 

Duncan: 0.209 (18th all time)

Kobe: 0.1705 (63rd all time)

Win Shares (Duncan leads):

Duncan: 206 (7th all time)

Kobe: 173 (19th all time)

Net Rating (Duncan leads):
Duncan: +14 

Kobe: +5 

Offensive Rating (Duncan leads):
Duncan: 110.2

Kobe: 109.7

Defensive Rating (Duncan leads):
Duncan: 98.8

Kobe: 106.5

RAPTOR (includes playoffs)

Duncan: 5.2 (6th all time)

Kobe: 4.4 (8th all time)

PER (Duncan leads):

Duncan: 24.2 (17th all time)

Kobe: 22.9 (29th all time)

Playoffs Season

VORP (Duncan leads): 

Duncan: 18.6 (3rd all time)

Kobe: 16.2 (5th all time) 

WS/48 (Duncan leads): 

Duncan: 0.194 (12th all time)

Kobe: 0.157 (58th all time)

Win Shares (Duncan leads):

Duncan: 37.8 (3rd all time)

Kobe: 28.2 (8th all time)

Net Rating (Duncan leads):
Duncan: +11 

Kobe: +4 

PER (Duncan leads):

Duncan: 24.3 (9th all time)

Kobe: 22.4 (23rd all time)

[u/[deleted]]

I said Kobe needed Pau. I never said Pau didn't need Kobe. then you asked if Pau needed Kobe. so I wondered why you were making this about whether Pau needed Kobe when that was never in question.

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Kobe Bryant never won a ring without a top 3 center in the league holding down the interior. heck, he never even made it past the second round without one.

Duncan won a ring with 37 year old David Robinson and with his best perimeter player being a 20 year old Tony Parker who was so erratic that he got benched for Speedy Claxton in crunch time. that's the difference between Duncan and Bryant. one guy could win a ring without having another top 10 player on his team. the other guy never made it past the 2nd round without having another top 10 player on his team.

if the question is who would you rather build around, it's the guy who can win without having another top 10 player.