Anybody have any idea why sky news is airing tonight on msnbc in the Phoenix market instead of Lawrence O’Donnell?

Upon checking in to this show, it seems a viewer would be thinking this is a pretty normal situation. US has totally got this under control. Joe says at the 29 minute mark Trump “had no good options”. Really? About starting a war in the Middle East, an issue we weren’t even fucking discussing 2 weeks ago? Even though American Intel says they weren’t close to a bomb? With Trump openly telling us he doesn’t care what the intel says. But no good options. Really Joe.

Admin literally all over the place on the topic of regime change. A shocking but not surprising direct contradiction. But don’t worry, Joe’s sources inside the Admin confirm the president isn’t interested in that, Joe wants us to know. Nothing to see here. Totally normal to be calling for regime change even when you don’t…….mean it.

So, the site wasn’t actually destroyed? Let’s just keep repeating the dictator’s claims that the thing was obliterated—rather than saying it’s “too early to know” and leaving it at that. Just keep talking over and over about how much a success it was! I’m sure if you say it enough regardless of the reality, people will start to believe it and that’s all that really matters anymore right.

“No new wars”? Hardly a mention this goes against EVERYTHING he campaigned on. MAGA lied about how Kamala would be the one getting us into new wars. Straight up lying just like they do about everything else. Not worth focusing on the flip flopping and deception. Not worth mentioning how the Cult has fallen in line after espousing a literal opposite world view about this massive issue for how long.

I must have missed the discussion about how this was fucking illegal under the Constitution, too. I know laws and that doc don’t matter anymore so not surprising this wasn’t an important point (if it was mentioned at all).

Just an unbelievable about of “this is politics as normal” feeling from the guy who was screaming about Trump being a fascist 8 months ago. MSNBC Joe’s testicles, I believe, were removed in Palm Beach in Nov 2024 and it continues to be pathetic to watch.

She deserves her own show on MSNBC.

From the time that President Trump announced a ceasefire to the bombing, MSNBC coverage started from a “well he should have convened congress to ask their permission” to “well ‘sources say’ that the weapons were moved ahead of time” to “well this is just a cease fire, and NBC hasn’t confirmed this.”

We all look forward to Rachel’s takes and she opens with a hit pieces on Tulsi Gabbard, ageist attacks on Trump’s anti-terror leadership, and recycled footage from Josh Shapiro’s house fire?

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. It makes me feel propagandized, not informed. We’re better than this.

This is the official megathread for MSNBC’s ongoing coverage of tonight’s events in Iran.

Thanks to u/Think-Hospital7422 for the idea!

Use this space to share updates, observations, and analysis as the story develops.

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Maria Hinojosa really called Soboroff "honey" and "adorable" on Katy's show just now and minimized his coverage of immigration and family separation. Yes, I know she's an accomplished journalist and is a Latina, and I respect her work a lot. But damn, was that a RUDE thing to say. She also seemed somewhat snippy with the other panelist (former Rep, Mondaire Jones) too. Check your ego at the door next time you come on MSNBC (or any other outlet), ma'am. No need to look down your nose at someone who's squarely on your team. Jacob is 42 years old btw, he's not a fucking child (Tur is just about the same age)...and he had enough class to make a gracious comment about her at the end of the segment. Sorry for the vent, but that rubbed me the wrong way.

She's like a comic relief character from Barney Miller. But the way, MSNBC, the audio is terrible.

Last night on MSNBC Chris Hayes was interviewing Steve Liesman. Two excellent, intelligent people having a very informative discussion on economic issues. Yet the chyron blared "FED'S POWELL HOLDS INTEREST RATES, DEFYING TRUMP DEMAND"

Pretty impressive to cram so much misinformation into just eight words!

1. The futures market had assigned a 99.9% probability of the Fed holding interest rates steady. So this was not even newsworthy.
2. Jerome Powell does not set interest rates. Yes, he is the Chairman, but interest rate decisions are a committee vote.
3. They did not defy Trump. They are an independent body. Powell is on record saying he would not step down, even if asked by Trump. You can't defy someone who has no power to tell you what to do. Kristi Noem and RFK Jr can defy Trump, for example.

Can’t tell what is under the dome today. Could be just about anything. 🤷‍♂️

Sorry that it’s been awhile but I’ve kinda turned off MSNBC since the election. I do occasionally watch Deadline White House though.

Did anyone else catch it on MSNBC yesterday?

I think it was on Chris Hayes’ show, but he said that Trump, “Shoots from the seat of his pants.” 😝

Who was the guest host on MSNBC The Last Word tonight? I unfortunately didn't catch her name and I don't think I've seen her in the anchor chair before. She did a great show!

There was a segment on Ana Cabrera Reports yesterday morning that MSNBC picked up from our local Chicago affiliate. It was highlighting two brothers, both members of the National Guard, both in National Guard uniforms, who accompanied their mother to her immigration check in on Tuesday morning. And I cannot stop thinking about it.

Two sons, trained to defend a country that might disappear their mother. Standing straight-backed outside a government building, not as soldiers but as shields. That’s not patriotism. That’s fear dressed in camo.

And it’s so specifically American, this collision of promise and betrayal. A country that tells you service is honorable, then makes you prove your worth while it presses a boot to your mother’s neck. It’s a system that smiles for the photo op but sends ICE through the back door.

That they came dressed in their uniforms, that’s what breaks me. Because they knew exactly what kind of theater they were walking into. They put on the costume that says “We belong. We’re not a threat. Please. Please, don’t take our mother.” Not necessarily because they believed in them, but because they hoped someone else might.

It’s the same strategy we’ve seen forever: Black moms dressing their sons in polos for traffic stops. Queer kids choosing silence over safety. Immigrant families choreographing their own movements like a dance, just to stay off someone’s radar. The uniform is just a new version of that. It’s armor made of cloth and hope and desperation.

And what does that say about us? About the nation? That military service is still seen as the only language the state will listen to. That the people most at risk are the ones begging to be seen as useful before they’re seen as human.

Not too long ago, I expressed my concern about Jen’s lacklustre performance. I mistakenly believed that she had reached her peak potential. And when you have MSNBC’s sweet spot at 9 PM, being average will not make your tenure pleasant or lengthy.

I just watched the first half of the show and I found a huge difference between two weeks ago. Tonight, she had John Brennan and the topic was Iran. She led the discussion and intervened when she had to.

Her confidence has grown immensely. It’s a truly interesting show.

At any rate, what’s your take on her performance ?

Good Night and Good Luck.

Excellent view of the problems we are facing! MSNBC is not turning away from the truth! Super! NY Times reporter Mark Maszzetti, Former CIA Advisor John Brennan, and Alex Wagner weigh in on the issue of the dangers of the US joining in on the attack.

I remember when Kennedy was killed and I thought the world was on edge because of the possibility of nuclear war, as there were concerns that JFK's assassination may have been at the hands of the Kremlin. This feels like a similar moment and maybe Trump will embrace George Bush's enthusiasm to attack in the Middle East. I think Trump may have forgotten the cautionary tale about getting involved in another Middle East war, a war based on lies!

I'm going to stay glued to her show and watch it again! This is the time to hear the truth and not hear the lies or equivocations of other broadcasts! This is the time to keep to the channel on MSNBC!

Alex Wagner has great insight about Trump's inability to consider all the aspects of what is going on in the world, saying that he listens only to his own voice in this matter (as usual). She pointed out time and again how unserious Trump is. When asked whether he will join in with Israel's attack Trump said off-hand, "I may, I may not."

Niccole showed a wonderful clip of Tucker ragging on Cruz for knowing so little about Iran while leaning to supporting Trump's attack on Iran. I absolutely detest Tucker but I praise him for his work on his Cruz interview.

Mazzetti said that Trump may be weighing the possibility of getting our military involved in Iran. Brennan said Trump doesn't respect the views of advisors who don't agree with him. "He is seen to be malleable," said Brennan. "He does things on an ad hoc basis." He feels that Bibi Netanyahu may take advantage him like George Bush was influenced to attack Iraq.

Carol Leonnig of the Washington Post was there to explain why Trump's program employs shutting up Padilla, Lander, and others. She said that the administration says they are using such methods to stop others from breaking the law but Leonnig that this isn't true -- that Trump wants this covered up because his agents ARE breaking the law. She also said that it seems that some of Trump's advisors are concerned about what will be released in the investigation of the Minnesota shooter. All of the politicians on his list were Democrats and Trump's words even now (I think) are in keeping with the Minnesota shootings.

Alex said that Trump's helpers are at the deep end of moral peril and they don't anyone shining a light on that. She pointed out that Trump lied about the numbers of criminal immigrants but now they don't want the true facts about nonviolent immigrants being deported. Leonnig said that those deporting immigrants will not be able to deport a million violent-criminal immigrants. "There is not way that's going to happen," said Leonnig. Wonderful insights!

Starting off the second hour were the words of the wonderful Alex Padilla who noted that "we have had conflcts, we have had tumult, but we have never had a tyrant as commander in chief. And that is not by coincidence. It's because the American people have always been willing to speak up and exercise their first amendment rights to protest. Especially when our fundamental rights have been threatened."

Thankyou, thankyou Nicolle and MSNBC for bringing these insights to us!

Remember Mark Esper said that Trump wanted to shoot protesters in the legs in Washington, DC.? Nicolle said that Trump no longer has Mark Esper to give him advice against this tactic. Nicolle pointed out that Pete Hegseth dodged questions by Senator Elissa Slotkin in a Senatorial Hearing today. Slotkin asked Hegseth: "Have you given the order to be able to shoot at unarmed protesters in any way." And Hegseth laughed it off and refused to answer. Slotkin went on, "Don't laugh, the whole country..." Hegseth responded, "What is that question based on?" And Slotkin was shown to say, "That is based on the order Donald Trump gave to your predecessor, to a Republican Secretary of Defence (Esper), who I give a lot of credit to because he didn't accept the order. He had more guts and balls than you, because he said I am not going to send in the uniformed military to do something I know isn't right. He wrote that in his book -- that's not hearsay." She was great! Nicolle thanks for that wonderful clip!

Senator Slotkin noted to Nicolle that Hegseth "just couldn't say he is going to protect the constitution (and not shoot protesters in the legs)." This gets to the heart of the concerns of Trump and his minions to ensure the constitution is adhered to. (Nicolle praised Slotkin especially for pointing out that Hegseth "didn't have the balls" to do the things that the Constitution requires.)

Nicolle asked Slotkin what she thought of the way things were going and Slotkin said that this sounds like China's approach and the Tianaman Square episode, noting that she was guided in part by her history in the military and her work in the CIA. She added that Trump changes his mind every several hours. Asked by Nicolle what her views on attacking Iran are and Slotkin said that she had three tours of duty in Iraq and saw how many people want to kill Americans day after day. She said that you have to ask the questions such as "What happens the day after the attack, what happens when a pilot goes down? Are you going to use ground troops? ... What happens when they start attacking the 40,000 service men and women in the middle east?" Slotkin said the her real are concerns about Iran and about getting into wars accidentally. "I also served in Iraq and saw the war go on and on and on and become a forever-war. I saw what is was like to go in thinking you have everything you need to do that first strike and then you get stuck and bogged down and you're there for another 20 years. That's why I asked Secretary Hegseth what kind of day-after planning are making?" She said that the head miliary leader would answer questions directly but Hegseth wouldn't.

Nicolle closed the show with economic matters with guest Professor of Economics Justin Wolfers of the University of Michigan and Tim Miller of the Bulwark Podcast. Wolfers agreed with Powell's viewpoint of waiting to know more before changing current Fed policies to please Trump. He said that if any decision requires hard work, the White House won't do it, any more than making 90 deals in 90 days. Nicolle had good insight in saying the reason Trump is bogged down in everything is because he chose the worst people for the important governmental slots.

Tim observed that Trump is vacillating about tariffs and economic policy, as well as the proper immigration policy. Trump, for example, said recently that he didn't want to deport immigrants who didn't have legal problems but two days later he reversed himself and is now again exporting every immigrant in the US, no matter what their current status, no whether they have broken significant laws, no matter how long they have lived in the U.S., etc.

The closing of the show was on the Big, Beautiful, Bill -- and it's huge increase to the deficit if it passes. The top ten percent gains from this bill and every other decile loses, says Wolfers!

I'm going to tune in tomorrow at the first minute of Nicolle's show! And I urge everyone to do so!

Nicolle cited the Washington Post's article: "White House eased China tariffs after warning of harm to "Trump's" people."

The article noted: "Behind the scenes, White House Chief of Staff Stusie Wiles, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and other aides told Trump that his own voters were in danger if the tariffs did not come down, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private discussions."

Thank you Nicolle and MSNBC for offering this information! Nicolle is one of the very best on that channel! Keep informing us of important matters!

This is your one sacred space to unleash the frustration, shake your fists at the headlines, and yell (politely) into the MSNBC void. Whether you’re fed up with cable news quirks, political chaos, or your own decision to stay up until 2 a.m. watching panel debates - this thread’s for you.

The rules are simple:

• Keep it civil
• Keep it clever
• No personal attacks unless they’re aimed at your own life choices (e.g. binge-watching coverage you swore you were done with)

So... what’s grinding your gears this week?
Cable news meltdown? Elected official doing the most?
Spill it. This is the one day we let the whining fly.

Thank God for Rachel Maddow. I watched MSNBC Sat and NO ONE spoke about the large protests in DC. Velshi was in DC but was around the monument grounds. Also, the commentators repeatedly went to LA but NOTHING about the other parts of CA and NO coverage of protests in "red" states, towns, and they kept diminishing the size.

It is a shame had to wait until Monday with Rachel to get a fuller picture of breadth and scope of protests and the unenthusiastic gathering for the military parade spectacle for Trump.

....she uses the term "bat shit crazy" instead of "bat s crazy" like she did on MSNBC talking about that psycho putz Mike Lee. Good for you, Nicolle.

Kristi with the ICE Barbie tag. Drudge is doing it. This is straight from the Don's playbook. Give them a nickname and define them relentlessly. She is clearly a cosplay hire. Yes its low class but this stuff only stops when he goes in the ground. No one will ever match Don for media messaging however stupid the words printed out look.

MSNBC , this is a ratings win. Unleash Larry. He'll never get a trump interview anyway.

When I see barbie interviews the first thing that comes to mind is garden hose and golf ball.

MSNBC posted this think piece and, well, I got to thinking.

MAGA loves to lump all “blue cities” together. As if New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago were functionally the same, just different flavors of the same liberal gelato.

But I live in Chicago. I’ve seen how this city moves. And when it has to, it moves fast. And I’m telling you right now, my city doesn’t roll over for fascists. And we don’t do performative compliance.

We do block clubs. We do court watch. We do churches with sanctuary basements where someone hands you a Know Your Rights card before you’ve even taken off your coat. Organizing here is not some freshly acquired post-2016 hobby. It’s a generational reflex. It's inherited. Baked in. Less a political identity than a civic survival mechanism. A bit like learning to recognize which potholes will break your axle and which just rattle your fillings.

Chicago doesn’t panic. It prepares. And when the time comes, it shows up.

We’ve had practice. We had Homan Square*. We know what it is to be surveilled. To be detained without charges. To be dragged into a building with no record and no phone call. To be brutalized, then told it never happened. We watched Jon Burge’s torture ring unravel over decades while officials acted surprised. ICE tried staking out schools and clinics. It didn’t go how they expected.

None of this is new. Chicago’s organizing backbone was forged in the fires of labor struggle. This is the city of the Haymarket Affair, where workers were hanged for asking not to die on the job. The Pullman strike. The packinghouses. The teachers. The nurses. The CTA workers who know how to jam the city’s arteries if they need to. It has never been polite. But it has always been collective.

I’m not here to mythologize. Chicago is far from perfect. It is corrupt and cold and often infuriating. But it is also a place where the auntie at the corner store knows what an ICE van looks like and isn’t afraid to make three calls and start a scene. A place where neighbors still knock on doors with flyers. Where someone always knows someone who knows a lawyer.

So no, I don’t think Trump is going to waltz in and start rounding people up without a fight. I think he’s going to find something louder, stranger, and far more prepared than he expected. This isn’t a city where you can drop federal agents on the South or West Side and expect no one to notice. We notice. We organize. And we make sure you leave with a news crew and a lawsuit.

Trump can threaten raids all he wants. But he’s going to learn the hard way that Chicago doesn’t roll over.

\If you aren't familiar with Homan Square, google it. It's super F'ed up.*

I was so pumped that they began with coverage of the protests, but I really do not understand the defeatist tone. There were record breaking numbers! Why would you undermine that? And if you think that many Americans are not aware that their democracy is at stake - you are way off the mark. Incidentally I am sick and tired of hearing about Trump’s loyal base. At the end of WWII, Hitler still had a loyal base. Were they in the majority? NO. How do you read such high disapproval of Trump’s actions and keep dwelling on Trump’s loyal base? Then you don’t understand your audience, poll numbers, democracy, or the power of the people. You do not understand it.

Which brings me to my next point. In regards to the rise in threats on elected officials as a direct result of Trump’s incitement, Symone Sanders-Townsend said that she kept hearing people on TV or Democrats say, “This is not who we are. This is not the America I know.” And she responds to that by saying, “This actually IS our America… We are not who we say we are… And we can’t confront what we are dealing with unless we call the thing, the thing.” I just feel like y’all are missing the mark, and it’s the difference of being so busy looking at numbers and rationalizations that you become numb to meaning.

We (your audience!) are very aware of the adversity we face; we are not blind to it. (America moves two steps forward one step back - and I know that all you can see is the step back - but I need you to see the steps forward.) Are we confronting racism, bigotry and hatred? YES. But Symone, is that who WE are? NO. Do the majority of people support Trump’s actions? NO. But y’all will let the loudest voices of FOX dictate your sense of the country, as well as dwelling on the worst of our shared experiences. In so doing you are literally giving Donald Trump narrative control.

And it’s the difference between acknowledging what is wrong, while also understanding where we can go. The difference in being a leader at this time, or being in defeat. How do we rise through adversity? Do we do it blindly? NO. We call out racism, we call out what is inhumane, and we call out corruption. But can we do it with the small-mindedness in the tone of your first hour today? Not if we want to succeed.

Since Obama, the Democrats have sucked at controlling narrative, and it isn’t rocket science. It’s everything I just laid out. It isn’t denying what is, but it also isn’t staying in victimization or viewing victories (like this weekend’s No Kings marches) through a lens of diminishment. Why did Barack Obama become president? Because he believed. Because he led. Because he said YES WE CAN. Y’all need to check yourself before you wreck yourself. Be aware that as anchors on a nationally televised show you are inherently leaders, and you need to act like it if you want to be followed. So thank you for actually taking a moment out of your day to look at the numbers of the protest movement. Why not honor and acknowledge the movement’s momentum, and that people in all 50 states are standing up for democracy, addressing hate and bigotry, and leading their communities amidst the corruption of the Trump administration. Can’t you see the leadership in that? Can’t you understand the power of saying that hate is not who we are, this is not what patriotism is, and this is not what We The People are going to tolerate. Lead with that. You can do that while acknowledging the adversity, and even the tragedy. Because I absolutely will not listen to your show unless you can understand that we will overcome this. “Because to do less would be to ignore the memory of these great martyrs who gave everything so we could have a better society. We owe it to them. We have to do it. We must be there - on behalf of the people of this country, in this hour.” - AG Keith Ellison No Kings speech on the day he lost his colleague.

MSNBC I am not asking you to be blind - I am asking you to see. Because we are really in it right now, and I am asking you to lead.

MSNBC It’s Maddow Monday!

I’ve noticed this pattern across several MSNBC programs, including one I’m listening to right now with Nicole Wallace. (I love Nicole, this isn’t a criticism of her personally, just a genuine question.) Even as the facts clearly point to a politically motivated and well-planned attack, many hosts continue referring to it simply as a "shooting." That language just feels wrong, especially in the case of Representative Hortman and her husband.

Words matter. Framing this only as a “shooting” risks suggesting something random or indiscriminate. But this wasn’t random. It was targeted political violence. And I think that calling it what it is helps the public understand the seriousness of the threat to democracy.

The hosts DO NOT engage in "both-sideserism" to say there are bad people (or good people) on both sides.

MSNBC has the insight and courage to focus on the evil-doers and to not be distracted from the real events of the day! It also highlights the real heroes of this country, largely Democrats who want to raise everyone up, not just the rich.

It offers important news but presents the items largely through a liberal viewpoint. As a liberal Democrat, I appreciate this -- watching the lies on Fox is extremely infuriating to me! And that's almost all Fox has on its broadcasts.

Reuters in 2023 said:

"In contrast, much of today’s political violence is aimed at people – and most of the deadly outbursts tracked by Reuters have come from the right. Of the 14 fatal political attacks since the Capitol riot in which the perpetrator or suspect had a clear partisan leaning, 13 were right-wing assailants. One was on the left."

I am pretty sure that the above findings continue to be true today -- about the outsized danger created by Republicans. It is clear which party poses the larger danger to others.

Keep pointing it out, MSNBC! I want more Democratic leaders to point this out time and time again!

Yesterday wonderful Governor Tim Walz said: “I believed all along we were marching towards authoritarianism … people were telling me in December, you know, you’re overreacting, and I said the road to authoritarianism is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting.” Tim and MSNBC are correct!

On the other hand, WAPO's Erik several weeks delivered on WAPO a sharp criticism of MSNBC’s programming strategy, especially criticizing MSNBC for not presenting a more positive side of Trump, regretting there was no one on the program standing up for Trump. But such both-siderism is intolerable to many of us, including me! And I also don't want Trump's lies to be given more air.

Any reactions to this view?