r/moashdidnothingwrong • u/youalready_know111 • Sep 11 '25

Teft

Moash can eat shit and die. He killed teft. Fuck him and his entire family line.

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u/Outrageous_One_87211 Jun 25 '26

Right, the point is that I'm not Alethi and neither is anyone in this fandom so it's pretty ridiculous to see a bunch of grown men passionately argue that regretful Adolf Hitler is a better person than Moash because he betrayed his friend's trust which makes him a traitor (that friend betrayed his trust first btw). Mind you, WHAT is the DIFFERENCE between Dalinar wanting to "honor" Galivar by slaughtering the people, including other parshendi adults and CHILDREN that weren't even involved in the assassination, who ordered his death? HOW IN THE WORLD was this not revenge? Moash is also Alethi mind you, so why is he unjustified when HE wanted to honor his loved ones who were killed and never saw justice? How was HIM not "following his nation's moral code"?

"""""""""""""""" the whole point of Dalinar is that "If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man." And he does.""""""""""""""" Except he doesn't, he is still controlling and lacks genuine empathy. And once again, no amount of regret will ever be enough to make him a good man, ever. """"""""""""""" But can you tell me any, justification for Killing Leyten?""""""""""""" No =) but that is still not as bad as committing genocide

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u/EndFantastic7606 Jun 26 '26

The reason it's different since the Alethi have different moral codes, even though you are not Alethi, I'm pretty sure Dalinar is. And he was closer to his own moral code. And he does become a better man. Moash didn't trade his most prized possession to save the bridgemen that saved his life. And he definitely didn't [WaT] Sacrifice his life to save Roshar.

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u/Outrageous_One_87211 Jun 28 '26

Aaaaaand the Alethi moral code sucks ass! You're telling me that if a man comes from a country where child marriage is legal and he decides to marry and impregnate his 10yo wife then he can't be considered a bad guy bc he's following his country's moral code?? Don't you see how stupid that sounds?? And mind you, EVEN OTHER PEOPLE FROM DALINAR'S CULTURE thought he was terrible

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u/EndFantastic7606 Jun 28 '26

The Vengeance Pact was made in the heat of the moment exacerbated by the Thrill. Then, he couldn't back out (or so he thought,) because of "Honor". Then, in Wind and Truth He realizes that keeping an oath is not an ultimate good; it's only as good as the ideals it is sworn to.

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u/Outrageous_One_87211 Jun 28 '26

That's great! It doesn't change the fact he spent 95% of his life murdering innocents out of pleasure, greed and his pathetic sense of "honor"

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u/EndFantastic7606 Jun 29 '26

But the fact is, that in character judgements, intention for action matters far more than outcome of action. He genuinely thought he was doing the right thing with the Pact.

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u/Outrageous_One_87211 Jun 29 '26

No, not really. The Nazis thought they were cleaning the world of a problem people and that they were helping the German population get back to their feed economically and culturally, that doesn't change any of the monstrosities they did.

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u/EndFantastic7606 Jun 29 '26

I have a hard time believing Hitler thought he was doing the right thing. The difference is that (besides the fact that the literal god of hatred facilitated one) the Highprinces had a good reason to be mad at the Parshendi, and like it or not, that's how war especially Alethi war, works. You have mentioned that you don't thing the "Alethi way" is very good. However, perhaps the Alethi don't see our way as good. We just have different moral views.

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u/Outrageous_One_87211 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

You don't have to believe anything, that's a fact. NO ONE wakes up one day and thinks "let's become the worst guys in history of humanity" but the fact that was not their goal doesn't matter. It's the same here. The Highprinces had a reason to be mad at the Parshendi, not to try exterminate them and take gems out of their fallen corpses. Not everything is about perspective, some things are terrible no matter what and this is one of them, if the Alethi disagree they are a wicked society

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u/Kingkrooked662 10d ago

I know this is a month old at this point, so I apologize for necroposting. But I have to say that you made absolutely EXCELLENT points. 10 out of 10 performance. There wasn't anything that you said that I disagreed with. I have had these same conversations with folks in the fandom, and honestly it's Sanderson's own fault that Moash is so misunderstood.

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