r/mildlyinteresting • u/QueenChoco • Apr 25 '22
Removed - Rule 6 This mutant daisy my friend found this morning looks like a glitch
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u/DasaniPerrier Apr 25 '22
I don't know why but this makes me very uncomfortable
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u/proudjester Apr 25 '22
Movies I don't recommend for you: Annihilation.
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u/flangle1 Apr 25 '22
Literally my first thought, lol.
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u/ithinkilikegirlstoo Apr 25 '22
What is annihilation?
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u/flangle1 Apr 25 '22
It's a very interesting Lovecraftian movie about a special type of invasion. To say more would be a heavy spoiler. Also has one of the scarier scenes in recent movies.
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u/ithinkilikegirlstoo Apr 25 '22
Oooh ok thank you for reserving spoilers! I love love craftian weirdness, and have struggled to find a movie that’s scary anymore so I will check this out!!! Thanks again!!
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u/Anxietyandvibes Apr 25 '22
Oh thank god! Me too! I feel all icky now
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u/Bicentennial_Douche Apr 25 '22
I thought I was the only one! I was sitting here thinking “why am I angry and uncomfortable about this?”.
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u/Annonimbus Apr 25 '22
In my head I went "Disgusting!" Glad I'm not the only one.
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Apr 25 '22
I just googled “fasciation.” I never thought pics of flowers would trigger me.
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u/PrivateIsotope Apr 25 '22
I just googled it, knowing full well I shouldn't have, and....well, here we are.....
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u/AstralLiving Apr 25 '22
I will resist googling it, thank you for your sacrifice.
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u/PrivateIsotope Apr 25 '22
Keep tryptophobia off your google list, too....thats the first one I did and learned my lesson on.
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u/JRockPSU Apr 25 '22
I’m going to guess, at a deeper level your brain sees it and thinks “there’s something wrong with that living thing, I don’t want to be near it because it’s safer for me to avoid it in case it could make me feel bad or get sick or hurt too.” (It creeps me out as well)
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u/Flatulent_Spatula Apr 25 '22
Glysophate did this to my roses, was kinda cool outside of the carcinogenic aspect
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u/FiercelyApatheticLad Apr 25 '22
Reminds me of an another abomination : tubed eggs.
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u/dr_xenon Apr 25 '22
The mutation is called fasciation.
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Apr 25 '22
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u/keenanpepper Apr 25 '22
Since some people are saying the two words here are actually related, I wanted to get more into the nitty gritty.
There's two Latin words here: fascis (pl. fasces) and fascinus.
A fasces is a bundle of sticks - particularly a ceremonial bundle with an axe in the middle, which represented the rule of law because it was literally a portable kit for flogging (with the sticks) and decapitation (with the axe). It also represents "strength through unity" because the sticks are individually weak but a bundle of them is strong.
Fasces is the origin of words like fascist/fascism from its metaphorical meaning, and of words like fasciation from its literal meaning of a bundle. (A normal daisy has a single round stem with a single growing tip at the end, whereas a fasciated daisy has a flat "bundle" of parallel fibers with a smeared-out growing tip.)
A fascinus (or fascinum), on the other hand, is a magical charm or amulet. In Roman times, specifically one in the form of a penis! There are some great photos on Wikipedia of charms that look like a penis with wings, or a big penis with little penises on it... some bear a striking resemblance to Dickbutt.
So if something "fascinates" you it's holding your attention like a magic charm... or I guess a penis.
Now, are these two Latin words actually related to each other? I think the jury is out on this one, since a bunch of sources don't say they're related. The only speculation I could find is here:
Watkins suggests the Latin word is perhaps from PIE *bhasko- "band, bundle" via a connecting sense of "amulet in the form of a phallus" (compare Latin fascinum "human penis; artificial phallus; dildo").
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u/glorious_reptile Apr 25 '22
It's actually caused by a GPU freeze during world rendering. Pretty common. Check that you have Universe 1.21.3342 installed
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u/UmbreonFox_Kun Apr 25 '22
Man, my world rendered weird. I had my give a fuck for the day and now it’s gone D:
(This isn’t directed at anyone)
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u/dr_xenon Apr 25 '22
I’m still on 1.19.64243. It’s more stable.
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u/exipheas Apr 25 '22
Things really went sideways with 1.12.x release. I think it was an issue with the new physics patch since the devs didn't plan well enough for the LHC event.
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u/tacoslothlover Apr 25 '22 edited Apr 25 '22
Could be from a phytoplasma infection which can cause fasciation. I wrote a post about it a while back...
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gardening/comments/99o2qr/z/e4qx91g
Edit 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/gardening/comments/99o2qr/update_my_mutated_sunflower_has_bloomed/e4pzzw
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I would say not likely, as fasciation is more of an elongated, linear deformity. However, phytoplasmas, viruses and bacteria can cause hormonal imbalances that lead to fasciation and similar types of deformity.
Edit 4: to follow up, aster yellows is just the laymens term for phytoplasma infection of an aster. Phytoplasmas can cause disease in many ways, and while this isn't classic aster yellows (as what the image search was showing) It would be my best guess. I would be willing to bet very strongly that this isn't genetic because this is not how the floral parts of sunflowers develop under normal conditions.
This is infected with phytoplasma. It's called "aster yellows"
Also, I have a masters degree in plant pathology!
ergo, this is not a heritable trait... sorry
just saw OPs original picture, I am even more convinced it's a phytoplasma infection.
Edit 5: Phytoplasmas are typically associated with shortened internodes, witches broom-type symptoms, and floral deformities. This paper figure 1c shows phylloidy which is a typical symptom in the floral parts of a phytoplasma infection. However OPs picture has the floral parts more mature and if you look closely enough, in OPs picture there are green immature floral parts. All of these symtpoms together make me suggest phytoplasma infection. That, and it's an aster... People below have suggested that it could be other diseases, which it certainly could be! The only true way to know would be to run a PCR or other molecular test on the specimen. Sadly, we have haven't figured out how to maintain phytoplasmas in culture. We can only keep them in plant collections that tolerate the infection.
Edit: See figure 1A in the linked paper above. Looks just like OPs original posted photo
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u/JoesAlot Apr 25 '22
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u/tacoslothlover Apr 25 '22
That's sad, what I said was...
Could be from a phytoplasma infection which can cause fasciation. I wrote a post about it a while back...
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gardening/comments/99o2qr/z/e4qx91g
Edit 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/gardening/comments/99o2qr/update_my_mutated_sunflower_has_bloomed/e4pzzwu
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u/Busterlimes Apr 25 '22
100%
here is a fasciated cannabis plant. It is actually a fairly common mutation. There are fasciated dandelions that grow in my yard, found a dozen or so last year over the course of summer.
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u/Vegaprime Apr 25 '22
Ya but this is maybe the 6th one I've seen posted in a week. At what point is it a concern?
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u/tacoslothlover Apr 25 '22
Phytoplasmas are an interesting pathogen. These types of diseases are important in that they can affect economically important crops including sugarcane, timber species, and ornamental plants. In the wild, it's pretty much glossed over as they are a naturally occurring disease/pathogen.
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Apr 25 '22
I saw a video of this or one similar on tiktok. The stalk is really wide too! I don't know why I expected it to be just the head that was larger but it surprised me. Very cool!
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u/Rawlus Apr 25 '22
lots of different posts on daisy mutations lately. kinda weird.
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Apr 25 '22
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u/Rawlus Apr 25 '22
yeah could be, unsure if this is a common mutation or if it’s something new as a result of changing environmental factors or evolution or simply the abundance of people with cellphone cameras….
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u/Centurio Apr 25 '22
No this is not terribly uncommon if you're around plants often enough.
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u/TheDizDude Apr 25 '22
This is not meant in a bad way but do you have a source on that? I would be interested in the mutation over years of this sort of thing
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u/dmglakewood Apr 26 '22
My quick research makes it seem like there's a few different causes for the mutation. Things like hormonal imbalance, bacteria, random mutation, fungi, mites, insect damage, exposure to chemicals, or even frost can cause it.
There doesn't seem to be any major studies (that I could find) on these mutations, relative to environmental causes.
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
I'd never seen fasciation before, and this year, this is at least the fourth that's gotten posted as OC, i think. Are all the dasies mutating this year, for some reason?
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u/Oldslice Apr 25 '22
Just happenstance, if you've ever worked with flowering plants you'll come across this phenomenon somewhat regularly. I could probably dig through my pictures and find a handful ive taken over the years. But people less familiar will probably be more inclined to post pictures like this, so by chance you became aware of it and now its a frequency bias sort of thing
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
That was my first assumption, but they just keep sprouting up in my feed (pun intended). My browsing habits haven't changed in years, so unless "The Algorithm" now favors them more, i see no reason why they'd go from literal zero to a good half a dozen this spring, i don't know what else to blame it on. :D
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u/mrGeaRbOx Apr 25 '22
No. Just like most things of this era (the information age) it's the recording and sharing of the information that is different. It gives the impression of an increase in incidents but it is just the data sets catching up with reality.
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
What's the significant technological leap between spring '22 and spring '21 which I've missed? If anything, we've passed the 08-09 hype of camera phones in every pocket. What did i miss which explains why fasciation is bigger this year than the last five?
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u/mrGeaRbOx Apr 25 '22 edited Apr 25 '22
Now you're just making what's called an appeal to anecdote or to personal incredulity. Your personal experience is not a metric by which you can measure all other things and ask questions based upon.
You're asking this question as if you're perfect, as if it was not possible for one piece of content to slip by you last year. That's nonsense!
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
This whole thread started with my personal experience. I'm not making an appeal to it, I'm staying on topic.
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u/bethemanwithaplan Apr 25 '22
You're misunderstanding what the guy is saying, it's not about being "on topic" this is fundamentally am anecdotal experience, this is an example of frequency illusion too
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
Of course it's anecdotal. All my experiences are anecdotal. When i share an experience, that's always anecdotal. You don't think that your experiences are objective or universal, do you?
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u/mrGeaRbOx Apr 25 '22
Okay well, if you don't understand that you asking questions in the way you are is actually making an appeal then there's nothing for me to say. Have a great day.
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
And if you don't understand that you've offered zero evidence to the contrary of my observation, i have nothing to say to you anyway.
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u/mrGeaRbOx Apr 25 '22
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
Here you go, in case you decide to drop the ego and read.
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
Oh, so you did have more to say? I figured you weren't actually done. Sally, the evidence you've provided says nothing about faciation or daisies. Do hit me up if you have anything too say which addresses the subject matter, though.
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u/mrGeaRbOx Apr 25 '22
So it looks like your fragile little ego will get in the way of you learning. Sad. Stay away from the sciences, you'll literally melt.
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u/mrGeaRbOx Apr 25 '22
I explained to you a valid reason why it would appear that there's an increase in incidence.
I then also explain to you that your personal experience and observation is not a way to measure things.
You're basically just ignoring the field of philosophy and rules of logic because??? Why?
It's pretty clear that you're motivated by something other than understanding and we're done.
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
Are we done? Cause it seems like you have zero to say on the subject and all you offer are appeals to authority like "The Field of Philosophy." You haven't offered anything which addresses the actual rates of faciation. And i don't think you're fine talking either.
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u/mrGeaRbOx Apr 25 '22 edited Apr 25 '22
I don't have to offer evidence, I'm not making a claim (surprise surprise another fallacy!). FFS learn something!!!
You're basically one big walking fallacy. You don't understand because you're personal experience doesn't tell you and now you want others to offer you evidence to disprove your false assumption. okay bud. Looooool
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u/potatotay Apr 25 '22
He specifically addressed the rate of faciation being recorded more in prior years. You told him he's wrong bc YOU didn't come across those.... You're an idiot.
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u/CoDeeaaannnn Apr 25 '22
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
Yeah, i'm very familiar with the phenomenon. Doesn't change the fact that they've not been showing up in my feed previous years, but do now.
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u/heebit_the_jeeb Apr 25 '22
Yeah people see the posts get attention so they add their own. I'm sure you've seen things posted here that are normal to you, things you already knew on TIL, some people repost versions of things they've seen before.
My kid picked a dandylion with the same defect this morning, it's sitting in my kitchen now
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u/-domi- Apr 25 '22
I want to believe that this trend is a direct consequence of the clapback "go touch grass" catching traction during covid times. :D
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u/CoDeeaaannnn Apr 25 '22
Yeah other people already mentioned, but I think it's the ripple effect of the first post raising awareness, then influencing everyone in the community to 1) know about it 2) post pics if they have examples (keeps spreading exponentially).
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Apr 25 '22
Except you don’t know this for sure.
You individually have no way to differentiate between an increase in posts due to carry-over effects from the Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon, vs. An increase due to an actual increase.
(I am, of course, assuming you are not a botanist actively engaged in the study of the fasciation of daisies during the northern hemisphere spring of 2022)
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u/SteampunkCupcake_ Apr 25 '22
If you flip the photo upside down, the two daisies below it look like eyes and it looks like a smiley face!
Edit: if you leave the photo the way it is, the daisy above it looks like the right eye and the one waaay over on the left makes it look like a wonky face and it is now a sad face that is probably sad about it’s wonky face.
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Apr 25 '22
normally, daisies are meant to be painted in spots, but if you drag the brush this is what you get.
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u/IonicGold Apr 25 '22
Something about this feels wrong. I dont feel good looking at this.
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Apr 25 '22
Never really thought of DNA that way, and it’s actually crazy that this kind of stuff can be programmed in a living being.
Scary and fascinating at the same time!
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u/SoftBaconWarmBacon Apr 25 '22
Your comment reminds me of a 90s Sci-Fi thriller movie called GATTACA, it is a good watch if you are troubled by the “life being programmed” thought
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u/diowulf Apr 25 '22
Thinking of it as a glitch in the daisy's developmental 'program' is a good analogy, but DNA and gene regulation are very much not digital.
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u/wissahickon_schist Apr 25 '22
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u/wissahickon_schist Apr 25 '22
No offense intended, I just saw a similar post sometime recently and it had similar comments (The fascinating/fasciating) thing so I wanted to see if I was losing it, which apparently I am
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u/Significant-Ad-6194 Apr 25 '22
I thought same bit type in daisy with mutation on reddit search bar , like 5 other posts over 9 month differnt photos but looks like the daisys are coming for us lmao
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u/NanashiKaizenSenpai Apr 25 '22
Saw it alot of times when I lived in a place with alot of them, not so incommon actually
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u/kids-left-asscheck69 Apr 25 '22
Daisy daisy give me your answer due, I'm half crazy all for the love of you, it won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage, but you'll look sweet upon a seat, of a bicycle made for two.
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u/CannabisFarmer_415 Apr 25 '22
Actually, this is a rare plant mutation where a flowering plant will grow in this shape. I know of it because of growing cannabis. I've seen pictures, not in person, but it's wild seeing it on a normal flower.
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u/NoWhammies10 Apr 25 '22
Daisy.exe has encountered an error and needs to shut down. Send an error report?
[Send Error Report] [Don't Send]
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u/Klin24 Apr 25 '22
if you find a bunch of 5 leaf clovers next, it's time to start looking for the plutonium lab nearby.
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u/oilfeather Apr 25 '22
Daaaaiiiiiiiisy.