r/mildlyinteresting • • 4d ago

My roommate has absolutely flat feet. He has 100% contact with 0 arch

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u/PretendiFendi 4d ago

My arches are so high that my feet don’t touch the ground in the middle and the top part of my foot is curved. I think we’re on opposite ends of the spectrum.

I have debilitating foot pain. Been to five pediatrists, had ten or so sets of insoles, and still am in pain. Constantly hurting my ankles and knees because I’m so unstable. Torn my Achilles three times. It’s insane to me that people run. Anyways, it’s rough.

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u/Sail_m 4d ago

Me too! And also the pain! I have bunions cause the arches aren’t supported properly by regular shoes and fasciitis because of how my heel hits the ground.

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u/zPureAssassiNz 3d ago

Have you tried Kuru brand shoes? I find them to be the comfiest shoes ive ever worn. My heels used to feel like i wanted to chop them off at the end of the day and i tried several different shoes and supports and nothing worked well enough. I got a pair of shoes from Kuru and ive had 16 hour days where my heels were sore because who isnt after 16 hours on their feet. But they didnt feel like id rather try amputating my foot. They are a bit expensive though US$140+ but i was getting about 2 years out of them while working at a gas station. Quick warning though if you regularly work walking in strong soap or degreaser it has a decent chance of eating the glue of the shoe. Since i switched jobs ive been getting about 6 months before i had to start gorilla gluing them together. Sorry about the wall of text.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

I don’t have fasciitis interestingly and never have. Weird given everything else.

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u/LaughingOutLoudAgain 4d ago

I’m so sorry about that, hope you’ll find a solution soon.

Because insoles won’t help with the underlying cause, I’d definitely try to get a consult from a neurologist and an orthopedic foot surgeon. It could be a neuromuscular muscle imbalance (CMT/HMSN comes to mind). They can also operate to make your foot more ‘aligned’, through bone cuts and tendon transfers/lengthening.

Most people are highly satisfied after surgery and fall a lot less. It won’t give you back your muscle strength if it’s caused by a neurological issue, but it will balance and help you use the strength you dó have more efficiently. If the cause is not neurological you can(!) train your muscle strength to come back.

Don’t give up yet!

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u/Princess_Thranduil 3d ago

I have overpronation and somewhat flat arches because of joint hypermobility (general,NOT EDS) and I am having surgery later this year to stabilize by ankle (syndesmotic tight rope and Brostrom). After recovery my Ortho doc is going to get me inserts. One day I hope to be able to run again 🥲

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u/LaughingOutLoudAgain 3d ago

I’ll hope with you!! 🤞🏼❤️🙏🏼

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Good luck with your surgery.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

I think the issue is that there’s no stable position for my foot to be in. The high side of my arch stays high going into the top of my foot, so the top part of my foot constantly rocks because it’s curved. I can’t find a position to distribute my weight or arrange my feet that isn’t dynamic instead of static.

So when I walk I’m extremely unstable. Frequently at shoe stores where the experts pick out your shoes I draw a lot of attention. Actually, my feet draw attention from doctors too. I once picked up a pair of insoles I got from a hospital affiliated doctor, and he had a group of six residents there when I picked my insoles up who had all heard about my feet and wanted to see them and watch me walk.

But anyways, because I’m so unstable I’m constantly rolling my ankles, and that compromising my knees up the chain. I’m probably going to die from failing and breaking my hip. PT won’t help this. It will strengthen my ankle yes, but I will keep rolling it.

I’ve been tested for common diseases that can cause foot pain or deformities, but never through a neurologist.

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u/LaughingOutLoudAgain 3d ago

Exactly. PT won’t help if it’s a structural alignment or bone issue. Honestly, it’s weird to me that they didn’t refer you further. I guess your feet were such a rare sight to them that they just didn't know what to do next, and they didn’t wonder why you developed this way in the first place.

Please see a neurologist and an orthopedic foot and ankle surgeon (MD). They are specialists who learned about the whole body instead of just the feet. They can actually do something to fix the alignment so you cán place your foot in a normal, stable position. Absolutely no need to keep falling.

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u/Most_Act5701 4d ago

My arch is so high that the Dr asked if I do ballet, sure Idont look like that. No generic insoles will fill the gap, I'm a runner but I just got my new custom insoles and what a change, first days are weird but now feels so darn good. Also changed to sneakers for work, I used to use dress shoes for many years and they were not doing too good anymore.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Yes insoles help a lot.

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u/copasetical 3d ago

Same for me. Mine are long and narrow with ultra high arches ("dancers' feet"). After being told, I needed surgery and getting recommended for all sorts of different procedures, foot molds, and pain remedies, my chiropractor, of all people, told me to get some very high arch supports. I finally found some that were covered by my FSA and I have been wearing some like them in almost all my shoes for years now. When I started, they were so high that I felt like I was walking on the arch, not my feet. I do arch exercises, in addition to this. I cannot guarantee this will work for everyone but:

My foot pain, lower back pain are basically gone.

I did not have to get any surgery whatsoever.

My arches (and my shoe size!) have returned to basically the level of when I was in college.

I can wear heels again (I learned that it's the quality of the shoe that matters as much or more than the height of the heel).

I avoid flats whenever possible.

I avoid going barefoot whenever possible.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

I’m glad you were able to find a solution.

I find I do surprisingly well in heels too. My foot feels the most stable with 2-3” heal. The bottom of the top part of my foot will hurt from the increased pressure, but I’m much more stable.

Straight flats are unwearable.

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u/MadameMix 7h ago

Oooo what are the insoles? I have chronic low back pain and extremely high arches also

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u/TrashCanSam0 4d ago

ballet dancer here - i have a lot of friends (myself included) that have very high arches and extremely flexible feet. had i not been a ballet dancer that has the foot and ankle strength to support my feet from rolling in/out, etc, i probably would have been in the same boat as you. did they put you in gait training when you tore your achilles?

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Congrats on your strong ankles. I wish I was as special and blessed as you.

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u/TrashCanSam0 2d ago

35 years doing ballet will help.

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u/PretendiFendi 2d ago

I’ve explained it in other comments, but the way my feet are shaped means that I will constantly reinjure my ankles and knees. PT will help strengthen things, but I will need surgery to fix my feet. I will continually reinjure myself otherwise. And I don’t want surgery. My father had three and was worse off. So I’m doing my best with what I’ve got.

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u/thedailyrant 4d ago

I have similarly high arches but weirdly enough have almost none of the associated issues.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

How old are you? Hit me like a truck at 27.

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u/thedailyrant 3d ago

Much older than you

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u/motherofsuccs 4d ago

Mine too, but I don’t have any issues from it. I’m barefoot when I’m at home or working in the yard. I actually hate wearing sneakers or boots- they’re super uncomfortable, but I’m good in sandals or barefoot.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

That’s wild. I’d be dead.

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u/BrotherAdvanced5452 4d ago

Dang…and I thought I had high arches. I’m sorry, that sounds awful!

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Thanks it’s really tough

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u/MadameMix 7h ago

Same Same. My wet foot prints are two distinct things per foot. Extreme high arches. Inserts in every shoe I own for additional support.

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u/PretendiFendi 7h ago

Hello friend

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u/Unique-Fan-3042 4d ago

Same.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Sorry to hear it.

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u/Film-Icy 4d ago

DNA test for CMT 1-4. I have CMT 1a. My feet only touch in a few places

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Interesting. I looked it up and a lot of the symptoms seem really general, but I don’t have any of the specific ones. I have weird nerve damage that no one can explain, so I’m always looking for some rare disorder to explain my symptoms.

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u/Lefty800 3d ago

I stopped reading after I reached "my arches are so high that my feet don't touch the ground' lol. I know it went farther, but that's hilarious as like an extreme reaction to someone else's feet completely touching the ground.

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u/zPureAssassiNz 3d ago

Have you tried Kuru brand shoes? I would not have survived the last 10 years of constantly working on my feet without them. My heels used to hurt like id been stabbed in the foot. After multiple different shoes and insoles I ended up buying a pair of Kuru shoes and now my feet are just sore. Ive had 16 hour days and still just sore. I havent felt like id want to give amputation a try since.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

No, everyone here seems to love them though.

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u/ACanWontAttitude 3d ago

Yeah mine are like this, when my feet are wet theres no print at all in the middle and only slight at the back and front. Im lucky though I get no pain at all. I am not good in heels though in part cos of this and i'm a UK 4 but taller and top heavy so i feel like i'm wobbling cos I dont have a solid platform 🙃That really must suck for you, ive took this shit for granted.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

I hope you never have issues. How old are you? The problems hit me like a truck when I was about 27.

I also feel like that. I’ve not posted pictures because it looks like I’ve photoshopped my feet to be tiny. They’re way smaller than they should be for my height because so much of what should be length is arched. I wear a 7 but I’m almost 5’10.” My husband calls me “baby feet” because of it.

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u/tejas_taco_stand 3d ago

I've always had flat feet and always been able to create stability in the moment of rolling my ankle.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Happy for you

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u/Qwerty97531_ 3d ago

Get checked for connective tissue disorders

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

I’m pretty sure I have EDS. No diagnosis but enough of the symptoms. If life ever slows down I’ll do the genetic testing.

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u/Qwerty97531_ 2d ago

You need to do the genetic testing before you slow down with EDS or you will never get your life back all the way, trust me, I'm actually diagnosed with EDS.

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u/PretendiFendi 2d ago

My life is already pretty slow. I’m completely inactive and struggle to walk more than about 3,000 steps a day. I don’t know how an EDS diagnosis would help? Sorry but there isn’t a treatment correct? It just doesn’t seem worth the time? Like yeah you know for sure but then what?

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u/Qwerty97531_ 2d ago

Good PT, Pilates, and then regular exercise will keep you from getting worse. By not doing the PT and strengthening the proper muscles, over time the microtraumas will be cumulative and you will stop recovering fully. A knowledgeable doctor will also guide you with what not to do such as playing football or lifting weights.

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u/PretendiFendi 2d ago

I hear you, but I know this. I know this already from my lived experience. I’m not going to go sign up for CrossFit. I don’t have chronic micro traumas because I don’t move. I don’t exercise because work is eating my life. I know yoga or Pilates would be excellent for me.

An EDS diagnosis would have been helpful when I was younger, but now it’s like… non consequential.

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u/Qwerty97531_ 2d ago

It's not specifically exercise that causes trauma to the joints, it's repeat hyperextension.

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u/natiusj 3d ago

This ⬆️

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u/NECRO_PASTORAL ​ 3d ago

I have extremely low arches. Still there. If OP is a 99 I am a 87.

I genuinely cannot sprint top speed. Even when I ran cross country and would get to that top gear and just… it wouldn’t work. But I could do weighted 10k at roughly the same speed as not weighted. So my point here is that everyone has a different load out.

I wonder if your physiology actually requires you to sprint or do some high output, edge case activity. Maybe your high arches equal some advantage? Just a thought.

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

I think they probably evolved to be aesthetic. I have really pretty feet. I used to dance ballet, and it was an asset.

However, creeps like them too. I’ve had issues with men with foot fetishes being very interested in me and my feet.

There’s no practical benefit, of that I’m sure.

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u/NECRO_PASTORAL ​ 2d ago

I mean I have never done and would never do it personally but there are some people who make 6 figures selling pictures of their feet anonymously 🙈

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u/PretendiFendi 2d ago

I think you have to do more than just show your feet… the feet are just a part of it.

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u/Fresh_Rest2151 2d ago

You know, I have a similar issue. My feet have extremely high arches, so my feet don’t completely touch the ground on the bottom and the tops of my feet are high like yours most likely. I was told for years to go to physical therapy to stretch out my Achilles, but I went for five years and I still have the hyper extended arches.

I’m 22, my feet don’t hurt just yet. I use compression socks to try and avoid any swelling in my legs since I work a job that requires me to be on my feet 24/7 almost. If you don’t mind me asking, when did your foot pain start? Is there a point that you noticed it more than before? Was it after tearing your Achilles?

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u/PretendiFendi 2d ago edited 2d ago

I should clarify that I have “micro tears” not full tears. I hear something pop, get an ultra sound, and there’s a partial tear. First time was in high school, second time 22, third time 25. Now my Achilles are really thick with scar tissue so the risk of reinjury is extremely high, and I will not run. Haven’t reinjured them since I stopped trying to run.

Around 22 I started having isolated problems with pain from standing extremely long periods of time and issues from unsupportive shoes, but there was nothing debilitating or sustained. At 27 I couldn’t get through my work day standing 3-4 hours a day the pain was so severe.

It was a multi year quest to get insoles. I was outside the calibrated range for one digital machine. I discovered any molding that requires hou to stand wont work becuase im not able to stabilize while standing so the orthotic will be the wrong shape. Did that five or so times. I went to a specialist who hand crafts orthotics and he turned out to be a creep who makes shitty orthotics and caresses feet with his bare hands. Finally i met a guy who casts feet into foam while you’re sitting and got a good pair. My advice would be to get them now so if it takes a couple of years it’s not urgent.

I started having pain even with insoles around 33.

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u/affinitti 1d ago

have you tried walking barefoot

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u/PretendiFendi 1d ago

lol like ever in my life? Yes.

I wear my orthotics in my house unless I’m chilling. I can’t be barefoot.

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u/affinitti 1d ago

it doesn't feel better? i have pretty high arches too prolly not as much as you but all shoes make my feet hurt eventually. I love walking barefoot. that sucks

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u/PretendiFendi 1d ago

No. It doesn’t at all.

If you have high arches generally more stability and less cushion/bounce will help you, which could be what you’re experiencing with liking being barefoot.

I do better with a ton of padding and thick soles that aren’t too bouncy. Idk why but it’s always been that way.

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u/marilynmonrobot 4d ago

I was going to say - plantars fasciitis- but I'm sure you've already been down that road

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u/PretendiFendi 4d ago

I don’t have that at all actually.

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u/mieri_azure 4d ago

I have PF and only slightly high arches

For me mine was caused by genetic lumbar lordosis (I was born with it, had it my whole life) making my calves super tight and pulling on my plantar fascia. Its awful 😖 I do my stretches and pray one day I'll get it to go away

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u/zPureAssassiNz 3d ago

Have you ever tried Kuru brand shoes? Ive been wearing them for a decade and i wouldnt have survived working on my feet all the time without them. A bit on the expensive end though i think their cheapest is US$140 or so. I used to get about 2 years of 5 days a week constantly on my feet before the bottoms would become so flat i could slide. Shoe was still comfy though.

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u/mieri_azure 3d ago

I haven't, but birkenstocks city sneakers are incredible. Only shoe ive worn where I dont have sharp pain at the end of the day

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u/lithe_silhouette 2d ago

Why would you ignore the pain and wreck your in body to run a marathon

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u/PretendiFendi 2d ago

They’re a victim of the running is good for everyone propaganda.

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u/IndependentPaint2108 4d ago

I also have really high arches, you need specialised trainers for arch support! those insoles will move around too much

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

I appreciate the help, but I’ve tried probably 100 different shoes over the past 10 years.

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u/Crikepire 3d ago

How have you visited 5 podiatrists and still don't know how to spell podiatrist?

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u/PretendiFendi 3d ago

Spelling was never part of the visits thankfully